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[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Hardly. Rather it is exactly what every thread becomes when you can't admit that you are at odds with the facts.

I'm not at odds with the facts. In fact (pun intended), I've been consistently debunking yours...

No it doesn't. It's just that there are two kinds of font smoothing available on Mac OS X and that the standard one works better than anything else for CRT displays. To my eyes Cleartype is clearly inferior on a CRT display. Otherwise the differences are not that great.

But there are two font smoothing on Windows XP too: the standard one, and ClearType... (see attached)

Apparently not. Still can't remember where I'd heard that.

Anyway, that looks ugly.

Yes, Agathon, of course it does. It's an ugly language.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Asher

This page tells you what it is and how it works, very generally: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ClearType.mspx

Then enable it and calibrate it here: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...pe/tuner/1.htm

gah. i have to use IE for this? :sigh:

[Asher]

Originally posted by Uber KruX
gah. i have to use IE for this? :sigh:

You can enable ClearType just in the "Effects" dialog box under Appearance in the Display properties, but the website allows you to fine-tune it to match your monitor. Click and choose the boxes that render best for you.

It uses ActiveX, so you do need to use IE to use the tuner.

[Inverse Icarus]

ugh, it looks really weird to me after so long of not having it. is it normal?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Uber KruX
ugh, it looks really weird to me after so long of not having it. is it normal?

It does look weird at first after spending many years without it. Just because you're not used to it, it's almost like changing the font on you.

Keep it on for a couple days, then see if you want to turn it off.

Keep in mind that it was designed for use on LCD displays, and it actually looks better on higher-end (more precise) CRTs than low-end CRTs. If you're viewing it on a very cheap or very old CRT, it might just make everything look ****ed up.

[Inverse Icarus]

thinkpad T30. hurts my eyes a little. :-X

[Drake Tungsten]

God, those kanji on Windows are fugly, even with the font-smoothing turned on. Look at the jagged edges on "kin"!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
God, those kanji on Windows are fugly, even with the font-smoothing turned on. Look at the jagged edges on "kin"!

Which character is "kin"?

And can you please capture the equivalent OS X "kin" in Arial or a similar font? (I used Arial Unicode).

[Asher]

Oops, apparently 200% zoom in Word makes them look worse.

Here's at 100%.

[Drake Tungsten]

Which character is "kin"?

The one that means "money".

And can you please capture the equivalent OS X "kin" in Arial or a similar font? (I used Arial Unicode).

Maybe later; I'm still at work, so I don't have access to my Mac. Don't think I have Arial Unicode, either, but I'll check. I always use Hiragino Mincho Pro for Japanese text.

[Q Classic]

still debating this?

you know what was funny?

all four of the examples that i posted (winxp, macos, kde, and gnome), in case you hadn't noticed, were exactly identical.

i made them all in kde 3.2.1 with abiword 2.0.5.

and yet kde still, somehow, looked better than "mac" kde, as some said, or better than "win" kde...

[Asher]

Q Cubed.

I said long ago I couldn't tell them apart.

<-- honest
Agathon and Drake are frauds.

[Q Classic]

actually, that's not quite true. i only typed the phrases out once; i used the gimp to duplicate them.

[Drake Tungsten]

I'm not a fraud so much as I am a troll. For example, I have no idea what this...

whenever i work on a mac, i ssh into my desktop and sftp everything i need there.

...means, but I acted like I did just so I could laugh when Glonkie got all bothered and practically gave us his resume trying to prove he knew what it was and how to do it. Great fun...

[Asher]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
...means, but I acted like I did just so I could laugh when Glonkie got all bothered and practically gave us his resume trying to prove he knew what it was and how to do it. Great fun...

My response was a couple lines followed by a wink.

Do get out more, Drake.