Bonds cheated. Strip him of home run record?

[GePap]

since you were using the article as evidence for your claim, why would you not logically assume it was a post about your campaign.

you know about making assumptions.

[rah]

As much as I don't like it, I have to agree with Ming and Imran. It's not cheating since there was no rule against it. There is now, and I hope people using are caught and punished. But while there are accusations, there is no definative proof. (yes I do believe some used) I'll reserve final judgement until later.

[Drake Tungsten]

since you were using the article as evidence for your claim, why would you not logically assume it was a post about your campaign.

Jesus, even I don't remember what I said earlier in this thread. I just knew the thread existed and decided to post this article in it. What's your problem?

And as for my "campaign"...

[GePap]

[SIZE=1] Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Jesus, even I don't remember what I said earlier in this thread. I just knew the thread existed and decided to post this article in it. What's your problem?

I don't have one-you obviously do, given your responses.

[Drake Tungsten]

[GePap]

[Ming]

Gee... I'm just happy he found the old thread and didn't start a new one

[Drake Tungsten]

I'm just glad the search function works now...

[Boris Godunov]

At any rate, talk of stripping Bonds of his record is still very premature, since the accusations haven't even been proven yet. There aren't even charges against him.

[Ming]

If the league didn't have firm rules in place, or had no real system in place to enforce rules that were in place... how can there even be talk of stripping Bonds of his records. The most they will EVER be able to prove is that Bonds had access to the drugs. Without test results, there will NEVER be any PROOF that he actually took them. Major league baseball can't prove ANYTHING.

So even if they come up with more evidence that he had them, they still can't prove that he took them. And while it may seem obvious that he probably did... that's not enough.

Hopefully, the rules and enforcement will change so that it won't happen in the future.

[Tiamat]

Of course I'm nothing but a silly little woman but.......what happened to playing ball simply for the love of the game? The Babe did, so did Jackie Robinson etc.....what happened to just playing for playing sake.

[Arrian]

what happened to playing ball simply for the love of the game? The Babe did

Simply for the love of the game? Then why was he the highest paid player - by far - and the first, IIRC, to make more than the President? Why did the Boston newspapers cheer his trade to the Yankees (hint: because they saw him as a troublemaking pain in the ass)?

I'm sure he loved playing baseball. But I don't really see how his big contract back in 1920whatever really differs from, say, A-Rod's current monstrosity.

-Arrian

[Drake Tungsten]

I'm sure he loved playing baseball. But I don't really see how his big contract back in 1920whatever really differs from, say, A-Rod's current monstrosity.

It differs in that the Babe was actually a good player after he was traded to the Yankees...

[Arrian]

ZING! Not bad. Although A-Rod's coming out of that slump in a hurry.

-Arrian

[Tiamat]

See notation where I said I was a silly little woman.....but again for the most part when baseball started was it not for the love of the game? Not millions of dollars. I'm sure they love the game but they love the money more.