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    Something big is happening at JPL. There is buzz that they are going to annouce the discovery of life!

    Opportunity also fondly known as 'Oppy' explored the Red Planet for more than 14 years.


    PASADENA, California -- Evidence that suggests Mars was once a water-rich world is mounting as scientists scrutinize data from the Mars Exploration rover, Opportunity, busily at work in a small crater at Meridiani Planum. That information may well be leading to a biological bombshell of a finding that the red planet has been, and could well be now, an extraterrestrial home for life.

    There is a palpable buzz here at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California that something wonderful is about to happen in the exploration of Mars.

    There is no doubt that the Opportunity Mars rover is relaying a mother lode of geological data. Using an array of tools carried by the golf cart-sized robot -- from spectrometers, a rock grinder, cameras and powerful microscopic imager -- scientists are carefully piecing together a compelling historical portrait of a wet and wild world.

    Where Opportunity now roves, some scientists here suggest, could have been underneath a huge ocean or lake. But what has truly been uncovered by the robot at Meridiani Planum is under judicious and tight-lipped review.

    Those findings and their implications are headed for a major press conference, rumored to occur early next week -- but given unanimity among rover scientists and agreement on how and who should unveil the dramatic findings. Turns out, even on Mars, a political and ego outcrop hangs over science.

    There is speculation that the soil underneath the wheels of both Spirit and Opportunity rovers contains small amounts of water mixed with salt in a brine. That brew of dissolved salts keeps the mixture well below the freezing point of pure water, permitting it to exist in liquid form.

    Opportunity has revisited select spots in the outcrop, drawn there, in part, to look for cross-beds -- sedimentary deposits that are formed in beach, river and sand-dune environments. Using its Rock Abrasion Tool (RAT), the rover has carried out several cleaning and grinding sessions on exposed rock outcrop.

    Cross-beds are patterns of curving lines or traces found within the strata of sandstone and other sedimentary rocks. Cross-bedding indicates the general direction and force of the wind or water that originally laid down the sediments.

    ....

    One scientist eagerly awaiting the news from Mars, particularly from Opportunity, is Gilbert Levin. He is Chairman of the Board and Executive Officer for Science of Spherix Incorporated in Beltsville, Maryland.

    Levin is a former Viking Mars lander investigator. He has long argued that his 1976 Viking Labeled Release (LR) life detection experiment found living microorganisms in the soil of Mars.

    In 1997, Levin reported that simple laws of physics require water to occur as a liquid on the surface of Mars. Subsequent experiments and research have bolstered this view, he said, and reaffirms his Viking LR data regarding microbial life on Mars.

    Levin detailed his Mars views in a SPACE.com phone interview and via email.

    "It's hard to image why such bullet-proof evidence was denied for such a long time, and why those so vigorously denying it never did so by meeting the science, but merely by brushing it away," Levin said.

    "Of course, now that it must be acknowledged by all that there is liquid water on the surface of Mars," Levin added, "this starts those denying the validity of the Mars LR data down the slippery slope leading to life."
    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

  • #2
    Oh, no. Best call General McDuck. Tell him the world "knows".
    Probably have to kill you all now. Tough luck.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • #3


      How exciting.
      http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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      • #4
        That's incredible news.
        Haven't been here for ages....

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        • #5
          Here's another pretty good link. http://www.usatoday.com/news/science...-mission_x.htm
          http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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          • #6
            Big leap of conclusions between the thread title and what's in the article, isn't there? There's nothing in there about them announcing anything about life, merely that there was probably water, which may mean there could have been life. Let's not get ahead of ourselves...
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            • #7
              Let's hope not the life I know from "Mars Attacks"
              Blah

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              • #8
                Big leap of conclusions between the thread title and what's in the article, isn't there?


                In traditional Ned fashion, mind .

                I read the article and was like, this saying nothing about life on Mars.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #9
                  hmmm i didnt see ahything about there being life on mars. i'd have to say this goes along with ned saying hes for liberty.
                  "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                  • #10
                    If they found liquid water or whatever, that would be interesting.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #11
                      Looks like this will be a Washington news conference (the first one of the missions), with the top geologist on the program traveling from California to Washington in order to take part. Could be big news.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #12
                        There's life on Mars - and they have weapons of mass destruction. Quick! We need a Mars mission to stop the evil doers - and bring them the word of Jeebus!
                        - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                        - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                        - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                        • #13
                          I think you guys failed to read the tail end of the article and the link provide to the conclusions drawn from the 1976 Viking experiment that did show life, but was poo-pooed at the time for a number of "reasons" which over time have been shown to be false assumptions.

                          NASA may indeed be ready to reverse itself on a host of issues, including revisiting its conclusion concerning the Viking experiment that showed life.
                          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ned
                            I think you guys failed to read the tail end of the article and the link provide to the conclusions drawn from the 1976 Viking experiment that did show life, but was poo-pooed at the time for a number of "reasons" which over time have been shown to be false assumptions.

                            NASA may indeed be ready to reverse itself on a host of issues, including revisiting its conclusion concerning the Viking experiment that showed life.
                            Nothing in that tail of the article remotely said that NASA was going to announce life on Mars, as your thread title concretely says. Levin's conclusions are still highly debatable, and the information coming out doesn't necessarily mean his assertion of microbial life being found will be proven true. Again, water on Mars doesn't require there to be life on Mars.
                            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                            • #15
                              Life, water or both. It's all interesting ... and if so, front page news.

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