CIA sabotaged Soviet Union in 1982

[Shogun Gunner]

Guerilla warfare essentially uses civilivan populations as shields. That's putting non-combatants into harm's way.

regarding mrmitchell's definition, would the Allied bombing campaign in Germany/Japan AND the Germany V1/V2 campaign be terrorism? The attempt was to influence the population into giving up the fight - specifically supporting the war effort by working in factories, etc.

[The Andy-Man]

why didn't they do anything in 1996?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
Guerilla warfare essentially uses civilivan populations as shields. That's putting non-combatants into harm's way.

That's a tactic, not a rule. Many guerilla armies did not do that, like the American army that fought the Brits, the Chinese Red Army, etc. The Contras didn't hide among civilians, but they did attack them. Same with UNITA and RENAMO. The two latter organizations both killed about a million people each. The Contras were kinda small potatoes, "only" killing 40,000.

regarding mrmitchell's definition, would the Allied bombing campaign in Germany/Japan AND the Germany V1/V2 campaign be terrorism?

Hence the term, terror-bombing. Yes, it was terrorism.

[Zylka]

See, 1982 was a wonderful year. It was also when I was born!

ON THIS VERY DAY

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
That's a tactic, not a rule. Many guerilla armies did not do that, like the American army that fought the Brits, the Chinese Red Army, etc. The Contras didn't hide among civilians, but they did attack them. Same with UNITA and RENAMO. The two latter organizations both killed about a million people each. The Contras were kinda small potatoes, "only" killing 40,000.

Hmmm...seems like a thin line. American guerillas would attack, melt back into the population and re-emerge during revolutionary. That put civilians at risk. I admit, this doesn't rise to the same standard of the other guerilla organizations you list -they are obviously much worse. I would say the Vietnamese resistance would be quite similar to the American resistance to the British. No Viet Cong terrorism in the US or against US citizens outside of Vietnam during the war.

[Gatekeeper]

Fascinating article.

As to what caused the Soviet Union to implode, I'd say it was a mixture of internal *and* external factors, not either exlusively.

Gatekeeper

[chequita guevara]

The main factor, however, was the internal contradiction of socialist economy without a socialist government. Most of the rest of the stuff merely hastened the end.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

a covert mission, approved by Reagan, for the CIA to covertly sell technology to the Soviet Union that would malfunction.

Brilliant!

Indeed. Stalin was going with police state no matter what was going on.

No it's not. USSR was not a threat, and never did this to America. America is the imperialist power of the 20th century.

[Shogun Gunner]

OB Troll

[Imran Siddiqui]

And a bad one. 0.1/10

[Shogun Gunner]

Generous, Imran.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The US has been doing stuff like this ever since the end of the 2nd World War. I don't know how extensive it was, but the USSR and Eastern Europe suffered some serious problems due to Western terrorism. This in turn fueled Eastern paranoia and made the security state necessary. The East ended up devouring itself trying to defend itself.

How is it terrorism when they STOLE the stuff?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by PLATO


How is it terrorism when they STOLE the stuff?

Read on, McDuff.

[mrmitchell]

happy birthday Zylka

[Harry Tuttle]

Read that one in the paper today. Now that is some deeeeep black ops thinking.

Kind of lends some fuel to the whole sabotaged Challenger and Chernobyl retaliation story.