CIA sabotaged Soviet Union in 1982

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SpencerH
You forgot to mention the exploding TV's

Didn't know about that.

[Q Classic]

and suitcase nukes.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
and suitcase nukes.

Suitcase nukes are a misnomer. They are still quite large, too large to be lugged around by a single person. Anyway, what do suitcase nukes have to do with Western terrorism against the Communist states.

edit: D'oh!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Cuitcase nukes are a misnomer.

Indeed they are

[JohnT]

Well, I'm still glad Reagan had nothing to do with the collapse!

[chequita guevara]

Yer tryin' ta bait someone.

[JohnT]

Me?

[Q Classic]

Suitcase nukes are a misnomer. They are still quite large, too large to be lugged around by a single person. Anyway, what do suitcase nukes have to do with Western terrorism against the Communist states.

beats me. exploding tvs, suitcase nukes... i'm sure they have some connection.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by JohnT
Me?

I've eatin' well today. I don't need no free meals dangling from a hook.

[mrmitchell]

The CIA also sabatoged them in

1946
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twice in 1955
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January 1963
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1964 four times. dates classified.
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1982: concinced USSR that Reagan would act rationally.
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and already this year. the collapse of the SU is only a propoganda myth. It lives on and we still sabotage it.

[JohnT]

Well, at least we got what we paid for.

[chequita guevara]

An expensive, wasteful Cold War that killed tens of millions and threatened our democracy as well as the existence of humanity

I want a refund.

[Shogun Gunner]

I think its fair to say that both sides were going after each other pretty aggressively for 40+ years.

I do think it's pretty ironic that the technology the Soviets wanted so bad...they got it so bad.

Regarding terrorism. This word gets used a lot now -- especially to paint the enemy as the "bad guys". However, couldn't any guerrila conflict, air based strike attack, etc that is not aimed directly at an enemy combatant (i.e. soldier, tank, military HQ) be called terrorism? To me, nuclear war is terrorism. "Terrorism" has a very loose definition - it's left to an individual's interpretation.

So we can say the US/NATO and USSR/Warsaw Pact engaged in terrorism against each other.

[mrmitchell]

terrorism--directly fighting civilians to influence them into fear or a belief.

[chequita guevara]

I've never seen any proof that the Eastern block engaged in similar acts against the West. I've seen allegations, always from extreme right publications, usually made by some ex-Soviet defector. If they were true, however, I'd expect to see the government talk more about it and the mainstream press to pick it up.

As for guerilla war, I only consider that terrorism when the targets are civillians, as in the cases of the Contras, UNITA, RENAMO, etc.