Hanoi John

[The Mad Monk]

Also found the House Committee report:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/9?cp107:./temp/~cp107j2Ge&sid=cp107j2Ge&item=9&sel=TOCLIST&hd_count=17&report=hr199p1.107&r_t=a&hcomm=international+relations&submit3=Search&variant=y&acronym=n&syndict=n&spq=n&sort_by_docid=n&d_q=on&dbname=cp107&maxdocs=1&

...but no coresponding Senate committee report.

Anyone know what "Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders" means?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I went over to Christopher Smith's official page, no mention of the bill is made in the news archive for September 2001 -- I found that rather odd.

I'm telling you.. Bush told 'em to drop it because Vietnam was going to help against terrorists .

Bah!

[Ned]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Explain to me how one Senator (from the minority party, so he's not even a committee chairman) can actually kill a bill?

There is an unwritten rule that any senator can put a "hold" on a bill. That is how Kerry, by himself, can kill a bill.

[Ned]

MTG, stop trying to excuse Kerry's inexcusable conduct by reference to China and other groups the Vietnamese kill off by the tens of thousands. You mentioned the Hmong, for example, here is a description of their extermination:

http://home.earthlink.net/~laohumrights/98JUN3.html

I actually remember seeing the news reports of the aftermath of one such Vietnamese chemical weapon attack in Loas back in the 70s.

Since we left Vietnam, we have stopped reporting on the attrocities of that nation. They were butchers during the war. They continue to be butchers after the war.

Kerry is slime. He has the AUDACITY to call Americans war criminal and to protect the real war criminals, the Vietnamese, from criticism. He should be shot!!!!

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by Ned
Kerry is slime. He has the AUDACITY to call Americans war criminal and to protect the real war criminals, the Vietnamese, from criticism. He should be shot!!!!

I'd imagine you would have expressed the same sentiment about the last Presidential candidate with the initials JFK if you had been around then...

[Ned]

Mordoch, absolutely not. JFK was someone I could enthusiatically vote for. Zel Miller recently published a book about the Democrats and point out how different they are today from the party they were when Kennedy was elected.

Kennedy ran the right of Nixon in '60. Yes, you read that correctly. To his right. Kennedy was highly critical of Eisenhower for not doing enough on defense and for keeping taxes to high!

Kennedy would even have been to the right of Bush. If it were Bush vs. JFK, I would vote for JFK, and I do not mean Kerry, the bastard, but Jack Kennedy.

[Monk]

Originally posted by Ned
Kerry is slime. He has the AUDACITY to call Americans war criminal and to protect the real war criminals, the Vietnamese, from criticism. He should be shot!!!!

Your hate is outrageous.

[Ned]

The reason for it is that I was here in America at the time. For any American, Vietnam was traumatic. The people like Kerry were the enemy.

[Ned]

Monk, as I said, the one person that the Dems could nominate that would make me truly angry is Kerry. I would do everything in my power to seem that evil bastard defeated.

[Monk]

Originally posted by Ned
Monk, as I said, the one person that the Dems could nominate that would make me truly angry is Kerry. I would do everything in my power to seem that evil bastard defeated.

I understand that but that's not the problem here. Rather, the problem is that you - who allegedly reported another poster to the proper authorities for wishing death upon Bush - are explicitly saying somebody should be shot. I understand there are probably special rules regarding the president that don't apply to the rest of you, but when it comes to measuring people's degree of hate, I don't really think this matters much.

(edit: my spelling sucks)

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Ned
The reason for it is that I was here in America at the time. For any American, Vietnam was traumatic. The people like Kerry were the enemy.

The guys who were there bleeding for the US were the enemy?

Are you sure you're not a subversive of some sort?

[Ned]

NYE, are you trying to be stupid?

[notyoueither]

You answer my question first. How could a 'person like Kerry', who went there, fought, and sometimes died, be the enemy?

[Ned]

How could Benedict Arnold, who fought for our country be a traitor?

Same answer for both Arnold and Kerry.

[notyoueither]

Your rant just read funny, Ned. That's all.