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  • #46
    Originally posted by Spiffor

    Sorry mon ami, but ze first policier you'll find will put you into ze prison. We are not afraid of kids with guns.

    Don't try it in Russia though. They are paranoid right now, and they could well kill you without warning
    Well you French did do something that right and that was that greenpeace ship you blew up.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Fez
      Russia got defeated by the Japanese. And Russia isn't good anywhere outside their land.
      That was during the Czarist times, and the Czars suck. Communism was really great for Russia.
      Not to mention that was the navy. If Japan came on Russia soil, they would be mortally PWND!!11!1
      And we aren't great outside of our land? Tell that to Eastern Europe Tell that to Germany Tell that to central Asia
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Fez
        Well you French did do something that right and that was that greenpeace ship you blew up.
        As you know, we're always glad to further the cause of fascism in our world.



        You should talk to our police minister, I'm sure he'll be interested in your innovative ideas!
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        • #49
          Damnit Fez. You bit the bait, then you tried chomping down on it like you were mad with rabies or something, and right now it's lodged in your throat.
          meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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          • #50
            Well... blowing up that Greenpeace ship was a good move, IMO .

            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #51
              Originally posted by mrmitchell
              Damnit Fez. You bit the bait, then you tried chomping down on it like you were mad with rabies or something, and right now it's lodged in your throat.
              I'm dirty.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Fez


                I'm dirty.
                That was probably my most obvious, blunt, worst troll EVER

                Yet you bit it I'm so glad your back Fezzie...Poly is going to be so much more fun with our resident fascist
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                • #53
                  There goes a perfectly fine thread. I am out of here to get ready for tomorrow.. I have classes 11AM-3:15PM.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #54
                    Well crap...I'm outta popcorn anyway.


                    Welcome home Fez!
                    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                    • #55
                      Aw, Plato, I wanted some of that popcorn.

                      PWND, what's dat?

                      Anyway it's probably too late but I'll give it a shot... coming back to the thread...

                      Ok first of all, how did California get in this $80 billion deficit in the first place? It's because of Californians wanting this and that and then when the state say it'll have to raise taxes to pay for this and that, Californians whine and moan about it and heck they even call for a recall.

                      According to Prop 57, let me quote... 'The California Economic Recovery Bond Act will consolidate the deficit and ALLOW CALIFORNIA TO GET ITS FINANCIAL HOUSE IN ORDER--WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.'

                      How is that possible? It seems so voo-dooish to me.
                      Who is Barinthus?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        Well... blowing up that Greenpeace ship was a good move, IMO .

                        So terrorism is okay as long as you support it's goals? I'm sure the widow and two kids of the press photographer that was killed in the blast will agree with you...
                        Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                        And notifying the next of kin
                        Once again...

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                        • #57
                          I support both of this propositions in their entirety. The problem with California is it requires a simple majority to make an expenditure but a super majority to raise taxes. Since the butt covering politicians will almost never cut any programs for fear of upsetting voters that means we perpetually spend more then the state makes in taxes even though we are the richest state in America with the largest budget of any state.
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                          • #58
                            I support the Terminator. I think he's doing a great job so far. He's a man of action- I like that. Vs. the inaction of Gray Davis.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              I support both of this propositions in their entirety. The problem with California is it requires a simple majority to make an expenditure but a super majority to raise taxes. Since the butt covering politicians will almost never cut any programs for fear of upsetting voters that means we perpetually spend more then the state makes in taxes even though we are the richest state in America with the largest budget of any state.
                              similar problem with my state.

                              My republican governor (though he acts like a democrat) really increases spending, but we couldn't approve the 2/3 majority needed to raise taxes. The courts forced our state to raise taxes

                              Also if I'm not mistaken my state has a limitation on not running a deficit. So I don't think that is such a bad idea.

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                              • #60
                                I oppose the bond one. Oh, I am not going to vote, unless you will gimme some money to bribe the election officials to allow me to vote.
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