Russia: No CFE treaty for you!

[Az]

gosh, they let everyone into the party these days.

Hiya serb, long time no see.

Tak kuda Ribkina zapryatal?

[Urban Ranger]

I think Bush's unilateral withdrawl from ABT has something to do with this.

At least he inspired Putin to do this.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Azazel
gosh, they let everyone into the party these days.

No, only the one who have a Red flag.

Tak kuda Ribkina zapryatal?

Do komu ona na hui nuzhna eta shlyha Berezovskogo?
Vchera po radio slyshal, chto vrode nashli ego v podmoskovie, buhal v chem-nibud pomest'e navernoe.

[Az]

[Saras]

Originally posted by Lonestar
Yes. We mustn't forget The French (1813) and the Mongols!


The MONGOLS for God's sake!

Grand Duke Algirdas burned Moscow down 4 times in the 14th century There's also a heroic painting of him knocking on their gates with his spear.

Of course, Russian returned the favor later on... with interest...

Originally posted by Serb
In NATo's armed forces serve about 4,5 millions of troops. In Russian armed forces- 1,2 million. So sheer numbers is against us. You've surrounded our country with military alliance of 19 countries, it's growing constantly and step to our borders closer and closer. The leader of this alliance had started 3 wars within 4 years.

You have held new members of NATO under your oppressive yoke for over 50 years, so naturally everyone wants to join a strong defensive alliance. Your mistake is in escalating and upping the ante. Wake up, NATO is not going after you, at least not as long as you don't threaten member countries. And you have nukes. What a load of paranoids.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I think Bush's unilateral withdrawl from ABT has something to do with this.

At least he inspired Putin to do this.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras
Grand Duke Algirdas burned Moscow down 4 times in the 14th century There's also a heroic painting of him knocking on their gates with his spear.

Of course, Russian returned the favor later on... with interest...

Dolg platezhom krasen

You have held new members of NATO under your oppressive yoke for over 50 years, so naturally everyone wants to join a strong defensive alliance. Your mistake is in escalating and upping the ante. Wake up, NATO is not going after you, at least not as long as you don't threaten member countries. And you have nukes. What a load of paranoids.

We have our reasons to be paranoid.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Russia is a corrupt, burtal, kleptocracy teetering into dicatorship. To the devil with the Russian state.

I can forgive you the first part of the above quote, but I'll never forgive you the second.

[Saras]

--"We have our reasons to be paranoid."

Constant hangover? Belyje myshi?

[Az]

No reasons to be paranoid, of course, this is obviously a load of bull. The case is for the expansion of russian interests, or perhaps the Soviet Union Russian Federation itself. There is little doubt about it.


I mean, really, who's going to attack Russia? Noone, for the same reason the WP didn't attack NATO in the 50s and 60s: nukes.

The breaking of the treaty? Noone gives a flying toss about treaties, Intl. law, etc. etc.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras
--"We have our reasons to be paranoid."

Constant hangover? Belyje myshi?

Exactly.

The Pinky, the Pinky and the Brain... B r a i n... B r a i n... B r a i n

[Serb]

Originally posted by Azazel
No reasons to be paranoid, of course, this is obviously a load of bull. The case is for the expansion of russian interests, or perhaps the Soviet Union Russian Federation itself. There is little doubt about it.


I mean, really, who's going to attack Russia? Noone, for the same reason the WP didn't attack NATO in the 50s and 60s: nukes.

The breaking of the treaty? Noone gives a flying toss about treaties, Intl. law, etc. etc.

Ukraine had about 1700 nukes. Now it has none.

[Az]

are you advocating taking over the Ukraine by force? why do that if you can just take them over diplomatically ( like you can with Belarus, only that it seems that someone is being a hardass over there ).

[Serb]

Originally posted by Azazel


are you advocating taking over the Ukraine by force? why do that if you can just take them over diplomatically ( like you can with Belarus, only that it seems that someone is being a hardass over there ).

No, I meant that West already know how to completely disarm a nuclear power without a threat for themself. Were is guaranty that the same will not happen with Russia, someday?

[Az]

That's such a BS statement.

If Russia will want to disarm, you will. If you won't you want. Noone is forcing you, noone has forced the Ukraine, as well. I didn't think I'll have to explain this to you.

You make it sound like "the west" employed some voodoo magic on the Ukraine or something.