Russia: No CFE treaty for you!

[Ned]

We all know that Chirac and Schroeder are seeking not only to form a foreign-policy independent of the United States, they are seeking to form an anti-United States coalition. The Russians are certainly seeking new allies with the collapse of the Warsaw Pact. It should not be surprising to anyone to see France, Germany and Russia operating together in an anti-U. S. alliance.

Poland and the Baltic states have a lot to be concerned about. The realignment of US forces from Germany to Poland and the Baltic states is not an accident.

[Ned]

Pat, they asked for AWACS and Patriot Missles.

[Patroklos]

For what, were they attacked? Just becasue the NATO Allaince agrees that your request is unfounded doesn't mean their regection is against the treaty.

[Ned]

Pat, they were threatened with attack by Saddam.

[Tripledoc]

Now that America could not get international support for their anti-muslim crusade, the mission there has stopped short and ended in a quagmire.

Therefore the States and Sharon has embarked on appeasement in the middle east. The danger is now that the situation will stabilize, and thus the American government will no longer be able to hold together NATO on the grounds that the world is still an unsafe place which needs policing.

Therefore the United States has now decided to up the ante in Europe. It is hoped that by provoking Russia, Europe will become nervous and seek protection from America. Thus the Alliance can be upheld.

[Ned]

The United States did not ask for the hostility of France and Germany.

But, since the French and Germans appear to want to support Arab and Muslim dictatorships that are hostile to the US, we have no choice, IMO, but to kick them out of our alliance.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ned
The United States did not ask for the hostility of France and Germany.

Yes they did. They attacked a French-German client state.

[Ned]

Tripledoc, the we are agreed that France and Germany are no longer allies let alone friends. All we need now is for France and Germany to make their hostility formal by inking an alliance with Putin.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ned
Tripledoc, the we are agreed that France and Germany are no longer allies let alone friends. All we need now is for France and Germany to make their hostility formal by inking an alliance with Putin.

And China too. A Pax Eurasia won't work without China.

[Ned]

China will side with the US because of Russia.

[notyoueither]

Ned, take the blue pill.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
GePap, one cannot have an enemy within an alliance that needs consensus to act.

OK, come back from the Nedaverse, please.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned


That is an outrageous lie.

Hmm, you mean i was an outrageous lie when they honored the pact in the case of afghanistan and the Taliban, hence the German forces there?

[Ned]

GePap, no, when they denied aid to Turkey.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
GePap, no, when they denied aid to Turkey.

A, hello..

1. They did give aid to Turkey (at the second meeting)

2. Turkey was not under attack, and the threat to turkey would only materialize if the US took aggresive action not authorized by NATO or the UN.