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    Wow, look at Computer Science go!

    Most lucrative college degrees
    Latest survey on hiring and starting salaries finds there may be more in '04 for many college grads.
    February 5, 2004: 3:30 PM EST
    By Jeanne Sahadi, CNN/Money senior staff writer

    NEW YORK (CNN/Money) – The job market may not be booming. But for many in the college class of 2004, it won't be quite as dismal as it was for last year's grads.

    That's the preliminary conclusion of the National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE), which released its latest quarterly starting-salary survey on Thursday.

    It's still early days for most college seniors on the hunt for a job. Only a small number of students typically have full-time job offers in hand halfway through their senior year. And the number of offers covered in NACE's winter survey is a small percentage of the offers covered in its fall survey, which reflects hiring through the previous August.

    Still, NACE thinks there's reason for cautious optimism.

    On balance, employers said they expect college-grad hires to be up 12.7 percent from last year, which is the first hiring increase in two years, said NACE spokesperson Camille Luckenbaugh.

    Based on the 2,300 offers covered in the current survey, more disciplines were reporting increases in starting salaries. Only a third of disciplines are seeing starting salaries drop, compared with nearly half at the same time last year.

    Majors in computer engineering and chemical engineering top the list of most lucrative college degrees. Average starting salaries for computer engineers reached $53,117, up very slightly from their levels at this time last year. Starting salaries for chemical engineers, meanwhile, rose 2.5 percent to $52,563.

    Starting salaries for those who major in civil engineering and electrical engineering still compare favorably with those of most other majors, but both experienced modest declines compared with last year.

    For the first time since 2001, employers reported increases in starting salary offers to students in computer science, information sciences and systems, and management information systems.

    The average offer for computer science majors rose 8.9 percent to $48,656; and more than half the offers surveyed topped $50,000.

    Information sciences grads had an average starting salary of $42,108, up 2.6 percent from last year, while management information systems grads have seen starting salaries average $41,103, up a modest 1.3 percent.

    Meanwhile, liberal arts majors still rank on the low-end of the salary scale, although as a group, the average starting offer rose 3.5 percent to $30,153.

    Many psychology majors aren't as likely to see that kind of paycheck, however. Their starting salary average fell 8 percent to $25,032.
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    No biosciences? Hardly surprising, I've found it to be a dog of a sector...
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    • #3
      Maybe I should have a Chem. Engineering degree instead. :Hmmm:
      urgh.NSFW

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      • #4
        I decided long ago that I would be more happy enjoying doing what my passion is, rather than becoming wealthy.
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        • #5
          Some of us have lucked out where by doing what our passion is, we become wealthy.
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          • #6
            Yes, that's true too. You guys have high skills in mathematics, computer programming, and so forth.

            Definitely use those to reach what is your greatest potential.
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            • #7
              I just hope I'll either win a lotto ticket or marry to a flithy rich woman
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Asher
                Some of us have lucked out where by doing what our passion is, we become wealthy.
                Wealthy?

                Thats the startting salary-what is the average salary after 20 years..that is more important in terms of being wealthy

                Also, averages is not the best to look at when thinking about real money- I have known guys who are in their twienties making over 100k a year as hotshot traders- that is rich. Not steady, but rich.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Azazel
                  Maybe I should have a Chem. Engineering degree instead. :Hmmm:

                  You'll likely be looking at regional opportunities only.

                  Trust me.
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                  • #10
                    That's a good point, GePap.

                    say.... how much does a Chemist earn around the US? I always wanted to go to the USA to make some cash.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Azazel
                      That's a good point, GePap.

                      say.... how much does a Chemist earn around the US? I always wanted to go to the USA to make some cash.
                      People with technical degrees always make decent money-but rarely do they rise to extremes. An econ. graduate has a good a chance of rising up to high or middle management in a company were the money is good (as in 120k a year) after several years- much better chance than some computer technician has of ever going all the way up to 120k a year.

                      And of course, leaving out people who begin companies, invent somehting, both, or strike the lottery, the largesta mounts of money to be had are in business, in selling and trading things in the financial sector, and there econ. people and even other social scientist, not people with technical degrees, dominate.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GePap
                        Wealthy?

                        Thats the startting salary-what is the average salary after 20 years..that is more important in terms of being wealthy

                        Also, averages is not the best to look at when thinking about real money- I have known guys who are in their twienties making over 100k a year as hotshot traders- that is rich. Not steady, but rich.
                        What happens after you get employed is more dependant on your interpersonal skills, leadership skills, bull**** skills, and general relationship with you coworkers.

                        The degree is what gets you in the door and a nice starting salary to make a comfortable living, and from that point you work your way up the company ladder.

                        That can vary wildly for many people. I know many CS students who ONLY want to program, and frankly that's all they're good at. They'll likely stay in those low positions for quite a while.

                        In summary, degree starting salaries are far more dependent on your actual degree than average salaries 20 years from now.
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                        • #13
                          Yes, but there are also countless drones who stay at their lower paychecks. The true test is the average salary, without the 'starting' part.
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GePap
                            People with technical degrees always make decent money-but rarely do they rise to extremes. An econ. graduate has a good a chance of rising up to high or middle management in a company were the money is good (as in 120k a year) after several years- much better chance than some computer technician has of ever going all the way up to 120k a year.
                            You're confusing something like computer science with computer technicians, are rather dishonest comparison seeing as CS requires 4+ years of university in a variety of fields (philosophy, economics, management, etc), and computer technicians are lucky if they have a 2 year community college diploma.

                            I also disagree with the statement that they "rarely" rise to the extremes, virtually all of my friends have parents "technical" degrees and they make very, very good money. My dad had "only" a civil engineering degree, and he's managing the multi-billion dollar Alberta Oil Sands projects for a major US oil company, etc.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Asher
                              In summary, degree starting salaries are far more dependent on your actual degree than average salaries 20 years from now.
                              Yes, and what your salary is in 20 years will be far more indicative of whether you can be considered wealthy than starting salary.

                              Median average salaries after several years would be more indicative.
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