I've hit a girl.

[blackice]

If he had witnesses it still would land him in jail if she reported it.

If he reported it she would not be in jail, check the stats...

So yes maybe he would be found not guilty but here and in other places he would have been jailed and gone through the ringer.

If he reports it he goes through the ringer just not in jail...

The idea here is not to hit other people animals etc... it simply is neanderthal.

But defend yourself against the ones who do not get it and or can not help it...

[Az]

Re: Re: I've hit a girl.

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Is she the woman in your avatar? If so, I think you should have just smooched her right on the lips.

Alas, no.

Blackice: I don't think you should make assumptions for all women. My mother certainly didn't teach me any such thing. ( different culture, maybe? )

[blackice]

Blackice: I don't think you should make assumptions for all women. My mother certainly didn't teach me any such thing. ( different culture, maybe? )

If you could be more to the point.
An example maybe?

[Az]

Well, you say that there is some indoctrination of boys by their mothers to be subservient to women. I don't think this is true, at least not in my case.

[Alexander's Horse]

All this tut tutting ignores the phenomenon of woman as abuser.

It's not just women who get beat up.

Ask me about that

[blackice]

Azazel I mearly claim that in the last what how many years? women have raised children. Only once again recently have we seen men assuming this roll again.

Both have a roll, yet one dominates that roll. If the ages of 1 to 5 are when we learn the basics, who then is, was responsible for your moral conduct?

The wait till your dad gets home or....
We live in a daycare society, parents do not raise thier kids, until now, again.

More dads are on the scene this can only be a good thing for kids and working mothers alike.

Bad for the government so is joint custody, why do you think there are so many road bocks to this end? Money...

So I ask how much of a roll did dad play then as opposed to now.

Thank the womens movement for that one

I am not sure if the hard cores meant it that way but

I was raised in a single parent mom BTB. I have a good relation with my bio dad too.

Oh let me introduce you to my disfunctional family :0)

now show me one that isn't...

Bring on the beavers and leave it to them

[Ted Striker]

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

[Az]

I was raised a lot by my grandma, too, when mom and dad were at work.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Azazel
I was raised a lot by my grandma, too, when mom and dad were at work.

And we all know grandmlas are all feminists teaching boys how to be subservient to women

For some reason, I see nothing morally wrong in hitting a woman, yet my mother educated me much more than my father... She must be a lesbian

[Pekka]

jdd2007, that's a BAD advice when it comes to men. Don't EVER let a man hit you first, EVER. First of all, it might be someone who can actually fight and hit, so there goes your jaw, it can end up ugly. I say hit first if that's bound to happen, hit first, hit second and hit hard afterwards.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Pekka
jdd2007, that's a BAD advice when it comes to men. Don't EVER let a man hit you first, EVER. First of all, it might be someone who can actually fight and hit, so there goes your jaw, it can end up ugly. I say hit first if that's bound to happen, hit first, hit second and hit hard afterwards.

A policy I have been previously forced to employ...

[Pekka]

Absolutely. You have to keep in mind, that in a real fight situation you can't give any advantages to the other guy. He might hit and hurt you bad. One punch can be potentially extremely dangerous. Heck, you can die from it. It's not likely, but if someone is there to provoke you and you sense the aggression and coming attack, it's not a gentlemen fight where you hit each other one by one and ask 'you had enough!' and see who the toughest is. Also, he might be backed up by friends you don't yet see. They will come and kick you too, once you are down. Even in bar, yes, that happens ALL the time.

Why risk it? If someone is there to fight you and you have no way out, you need to be explosive, you need to be rude and arrogant and play it unfair. Put a little shock value to it by hitting hard but also following it up, and controlling the environment by being read to throw down with the next one coming up. Don't go down, you get kicked and you might not be able to get up. Don't let anyone to mistreat you, have some respect for your body!

It doesn't matter if you are martial arts practitioner or nto, there are many guys out there who can throw down and game plans fly out when you get hit real hard. That's why you gotta keep it realistic and simple. In crowded place with little room to move, the only way to be effective and protect yourself is NOT to back up where you might find yourself cornered with bunch of dudes looking to trash you, except if you're familiar with the place and know the routes like your back pocket.

The best way is to throw down first, hard and keep going. How do you know if the guy is going to hit you? You sense the feeling. Sometimes it's really obvious. Great start is to lift your hands like 'hey man I don't want any trouble' and spread'em a little and just throw a destructive combo and kick the guy when he is downed. Now quickly look out for his possible back up and if there is a chance, run the hell out. Do not try any constriction moves like holding the guy, it will get you, his friends will kill you. You have to eventually let the dude go anyway, and he won't be forgetting it as he was humiliated. Just knock'em out hard. Hit them in the face, nose is good as you might have a chance to brake it and the dude should be out, or if you can really punch you can go for other strategies too. Protect yourself at all times.

Or else you risk yourself getting a beating. You can get away several ways, but only way you can be sure you're the one controlling the pace is to hit first and DON'T EVER look if he wants to continue. You need to follow it up.

[Nubclear]

Pekka is so violent.....

[Pekka]

No I'm not violent. I have never fought in a bar. I have been provoked several times in bars, but I have always managed to get out without a fight. I have even had a guy put his hand on my throat and other hand in the fist, and able to persuade him to take it off without fighting.
It helps if you know how to fight, how it feels to get hit hard in the face, and how to return the favour and rumble. Why? Because you're more confident in situation where you might have to protect youself. You might be little scared still, but you have been there before, and you know the other guy can't hurt you like you have been hurt before, by a guy who can fight and hits you in the face on regular basis. So, you can be confident and relaxed and say what you think which should be 'Come on man let go, I don't want to embarras you in front of your girlfriend' or something creative. It's about control. If you look like you can fight, talk like you can fight (not trash talking, but confident), the other guy will give it a thought and you can try to persuade. As long as you're not whining about it and crawling 'I do everything so you let me go', not a way to go. That says you're an easy fight to him.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Pekka
Don't EVER let a man hit you first, EVER. First of all, it might be someone who can actually fight and hit, so there goes your jaw, it can end up ugly. I say hit first if that's bound to happen, hit first, hit second and hit hard afterwards.

You are going to have a hard time explaning to the police why you threw punches first.