Do rightwingers despise women?

[Bosh]

Generally the more conservative the country the later universal suffrage was introduced. Switzerland is the obvious example.

France and Wyoming being the perfect examples of this I assume

[Berzerker]

So in order to push this scientifically unsubstantiated idea

Hmm...does a baby "scientifically" become a human being only after it leaves the womb? I'd love to hear about that science. Nah...

you are supporting a policy that means that more Women in the third world will die?

You mean I'm responsible if a woman in the 3rd world dies if I don't pay for her abortion? What happens when she dies because of the abortion I paid for?

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Dissident
I demand this thread be closed! I made a thread once about left-wingers and that was instantly closed. Troll threads like this should be closed.

Hmm. So that is the end of free speech then I guess.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Berzerker
You mean I'm responsible if a woman in the 3rd world dies if I don't pay for her abortion? What happens when she dies because of the abortion I paid for?

No I can accept that a state does not want to give out money to poor people, yet aspire to rule the world. What i cannot understand why it is important for the Bush administration to support oganisations financially that are against abortion. Read the article. Why does the US taxpayer have to give money to anti-abortion groups in differnt countries?

[Berzerker]

Btw, Tripledoc, I seriously doubt you'd consider the countries/states that implemented suffrage back then to be liberal.

[Capt Dizle]

I can't really understand why yall are so afraid.

[DinoDoc]

Seriously! Who's DL is Tripledoc? I refuse to believe that someone could be this oppressively stupid on thier own.

[Ted Striker]

i agree

who is it

[Berzerker]

No I can accept that a state does not want to give out money to poor people, yet aspire to rule the world. What i cannot understand why it is important for the Bush administration to support oganisations financially that are against abortion. Read the article. Why does the US taxpayer have to give money to anti-abortion groups in differnt countries?

The article doesn't say that, but you didn't answer my question. I'll expand upon it, if I encourage abortion in the 3rd world and help pay for those abortions, am I responsible when a woman dies from an abortion I encouraged and paid for?

Also, claiming Bush is a right winger and expecting those of us who are right wingers to defend social (i.e., mainly religious) "conservativism" (which I view as left wing) is illogical.

[Berzerker]

Seriously! Who's DL is Tripledoc? I refuse to believe that someone could be this oppressively stupid on thier own.

You mean it takes 2 liberals combined to be that stupid?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Since conservatism is about remaining in the "way it has always been done", or at best is about departing from it as slowly as possible, it's obvious the conservatives are more keen to the old status quo making women inferior to men.

That's not a very good definition of conservativism anymore...

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by monkspider
The problem is not right-wingers, but rather, evil people or ill-informed people. Such people only form about 98% of the political right.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Berzerker


The article doesn't say that, but you didn't answer my question. I'll expand upon it, if I encourage abortion in the 3rd world and help pay for those abortions, am I responsible when a woman dies from an abortion I encouraged and paid for?

No. This is not about personal guilt although I gather this is very important to conservatives. This is about the fact that more women die when medical facilities are lacking and when information is lacking. When Bush or the Pope says that abstinence is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies, this message has very little impact if any.

Therefore it is important that women who choose to have an abortion are helped by professional people in sanitary environment. If if they choose to do so they will no matter what the conditions. To support abortion is simply allowing the greatest number of women safety from dying. Why support a policy that means that more women are dying? Seems perverse.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Tripledoc
Hmm. So that is the end of free speech then I guess.

This is when Ming tells you that there IS NO FREE SPEECH ON APOLYTON! This is a privately owned site, and you have no right to use it without permission of the owner. So shut up and quit whining.

[Berzerker]

That's not a very good definition of conservativism anymore...

What is? Liberalism (classical liberalism) was about expanding freedom, now it's more about increasing state control over our lives. Conservativism 150 years ago seemed much more liberal (classicly) than either liberalism or conservatism today. As Jefferson said, the trend is for government to grow and liberty to give way. We can see that liberalism and conservativism make use of that trend...