Video of Today's suicide bombing - Jan 29th

[Zylka]

Originally posted by paiktis22


Then it does strike as a bit odd that the Palestinian casualties are double that of Israelis. (Also numbers aside, no fancy videos about that but there are some truely disturbing pictures of 2 year old Palestinians meeting their maker or eternal darkness)

There ARE such instances of children "meeting their maker or eternal darkness" - some rare times even on purpose by murderous hands; but NO ONE is denying that!

Problem is - you see and flag a severely disproportionate amount of attack casualties on such scenario in every instance. The reality of the situation is that a large number of these dwarfing innocents are merely unproven accomplices or in situational ride along for "whatever reason"

Yes there are situational ride alongs of children in day adjacent cares - but that minority instance of Israeli murder takes up such a huge proportion of your self convincing that you're left blind to complete outlook.

So yes - innocent casualties are do contain innocent Palestinians! They also cotain people in the back seat of the targetted sociopath, complete morons (and near shields) "trying to do the human thing" as Che has convinced himself, and Israeli nobodys going to work on the bus. Seems you're too blind to look past the simple numbers, at this point

Save the refugees! All those REFUGEES!

[Bereta_Eder]

Zylka don;t flatter yourself thinking I read what you posted. I stopped after the first line because you failed to answer to this simple fact: Pal casualties double that of Israelis. Maaaaaany more videos baby!

Make no mistake I kinda like you and I know we disagree on this issue (o lord!!! the world will come tumbling down) but this is a very simple point. If blood is what we're counting here then the Pal one is double that of Israelis. If practices for how this is doen is what we're talking about then that's another matter. Anyway I much preferd you when you were writing weird threahds but my conscience doesn't allow me to mock someone who's taken interests in politics and the world around them agreeing or not.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Eli
Look on the raw numbers. It's mainly because the Pals got much "better" at killing Jews.

There are a number of reasons. Primarily I susect it's because previous attacks against Israel were laucnhed from abroad, so it much easier for Israel to detect and nuetralize them. The Israelis, for all their faults, are also more discriminating these days about retaliating. Instead of destroying whole villages in retaliation, they mostly target militants (excepting the occassional Israeli solider who decides he's just gonna pop some raghead for amusement), but don't care who's in the way. Meanwhile, Palestinian attacks are no longer lauched as guerila attacks but are disguised.

[Eli]

Pal casualties double that of Palestinians. Maaaaaany more videos baby!

You have to compare the number of casualties with the capability to cause them. Israel had killed ~2,500, the Pals had killed ~1000. How many more people COULD the Pals kill if they wanted? Almost 0, since almost every opportunity to kill was used. How many more people COULD Israel kill if it wanted? About 4 million.

Just imagine how many Israelis would've been dead by now if the Pals had the same capabilities of the IDF.

[Bereta_Eder]

Israel can't kill 4 million because it is not an island. facts remain about the double Pal blood.

[Zylka]

The whole purpose of this thread is to demonize a whole group of people.

Oh - you've got it, especially with the mixed sentiments expressed towards the bomber himself (wonderful attention span).

I'm monkeywrenching it

You know.. I now wonder if behind the screen you're really just some smiling CIA prop who goes from site to site in stirring up frustrating debate - simply to remind the world who they are through a new media. Kind of like setting up a moronic bad guy of sorts - one who gets us thinking, and reitorating the simple yet common sense abstracts of life in response

Or, you're just an antagonistic fraud with underdog mentality engrained by a rough school life. Yeah - I like that one better

[Zylka]

Originally posted by paiktis22
I stopped after the first line because you failed to answer to this simple fact: Pal casualties double that of Israelis.

Ok. Well here's an important excerpt regarding the simple minded idiocy above!

Originally posted by Zylka Seems you're too blind to look past the simple numbers, at this point

Good to see such an open minded "free thinker", though. At least I read your English butchering blanket statements. Not bad for a Pal hating bigot!

[Eli]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There are a number of reasons. Primarily I susect it's because previous attacks against Israel were laucnhed from abroad, so it much easier for Israel to detect and nuetralize them.

Nah. Most attacks always came from Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip. You just hear about the international ones more often. Almost daily raids were commonplace in the 50s and 60s. Due to technological differences even the succesfull attacks ended with a very small number of Israelis dead and/or injured, so it never really made the news around the world.

The Israelis, for all their faults, are also more discriminating these days about retaliating. Instead of destroying whole villages in retaliation,

Oh come on, a single village was destroyed during a retaliation action and even that was a result of a decision made by the specific force acting there and caused an enourmous controversy in Israel. It definetely wasnt the policy you make it sound like.

[Ecthy]

Would there still be suicide bombings if Israel stopped exisiting?

[Eli]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Israel can't kill 4 million because it is not an island. facts remain about the double Pal blood.

Re read my post. If Israel wanted, it could do it. Since it wasnt done, Israel doesnt want. The Pals want, but cant.

[Eli]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
Would there still be suicide bombings if Israel stopped exisiting?

Would there still be car accidents if cars stopped existing?

[Edan]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If you changed it to usually not targetting non-combatants but often times getting them anyways, I'd agree with you.

Fact is, given the numbers of deaths, the Israelis are either sloppy and incompetent or simply don't care about non-combatant deaths.

Sometimes the Israelis are sloppy, yes, but they work on improving their actions to minimize civilian deaths. If they wanted to increase the number of dead Palestinian civilians, they could easily do so.

There was thread a week or two back where there was discussion about civilian to total death stats for Israelis vs. Palestinian terrorists. Israelis had a rate in the mid 30s rate while Palestinian Terrorists had ~80%.

Now compare that mid-30% range to most wars, particularily those in urban environments.



And of course, Terrorists firing amoung Palestinian civilians sure doesn't help matters...

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
Would there still be suicide bombings if Israel stopped exisiting?

Would I keep stabbing your mother with an ice pick if you gave me a million dollars to stop?

[lord of the mark]

a week or so ago a woman blew up at erez crossing, Gaza, killing 4 israeli soldiers.


The crossing had been reopened to enable Palestinians to get to jobs in israel, relieving the economic misery of Gaza.

At the crossing, the woman set off a metal detector - she should have been sent back, but claimed to have a metal implant in her leg. So she was searched, instead.
A mercy to someone with physical infirmity.

She was searched in a seperate room, to protect her privacy as a woman.

3 acts of humanity - rewarded by 4 dead Israelis.

Ad matai, Hashem, ad Matai?????????????

[chequita guevara]

The terrorist groups want the misery to continue. The longer the people suffer, the longer the terrorsts can gather support. I wonder if she had a another target or if she was trying to close the gate.