New Hampshire result

[Capt Dizle]

Instruct the children in the path which they should tred and they shall not stray far from it.

Some of them are thick headed so you just have keep pounding.

No northern Democratic can beat George Bush.

Plus, anyway, Ramo, why be a cowardly Democratic. Don't you have the balls to attack Bush on his turf? Why try to steal a state when you could win them all?

[Pax]

both had advantages and disadvantages. I personally am surprised Bush got elcted Governor let alone President.

[Ramo]

No northern Democratic can beat George Bush.

Repeating it over and over again ain't gonna make it so.

Plus, anyway, Ramo, why be a cowardly Democratic. Don't you have the balls to attack Bush on his turf? Why try to steal a state when you could win them all?

I'm certainly no Democrat, and I don't care whether or not the Democratic nominee wins all 50 states; I just want Shrub to lose.

And attacking him on his own ground takes money - more than any Democrat is likely to have, not balls.

[MrFun]

Some morning news today (Thursday):


Dean is asking about 500 of his staffers if they are willing to work without a paycheck for the next two weeks. This means that his campaign funding is obviously going in the red.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Ramo
Regardless of whether or not Shrub cheated (which he did ), Gore should have won by a fair margin with the advantages he had going into the race. He was ultimately the crappier politician.

I don't think anyone would dispute you there.

Gore should have won, easily. The fact that it was so close at all showed that he didn't deserve to win. It's like when a football team blames the refs when they're upset by an inferior opponent.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Pax Africanus
The best ticket too beat President Bush would probabably be Kerry/Dean? Whose coming with me?

I'd say Kerry/Gore, or even Dean/Gore. I think Gore didn't run so he could take the VP spot, because everyone's fighting dirty against Dean especially, so if Dean wins, he probably wouldn't want one of the others as his running mate. Also, it sets Gore up for a shot at presidency in 2012, or 2008 if the Dems lose. Sure, he'll have to face Hillary, but after losing that closely, it shows he's electable. Like Nixon losing to JFK, I think Gore will come back and one day be President. I can see the Dems nominating Hillary in 2008, but I can't see her winning. I think she's too left to be electable

[MrFun]

Dean is not going to do very well from here on probably due to his finances -- see my last post, Drogue.

[Ned]

Dean has to win a primary soon or it is OVER.

[Ned]

I also agree that it is time to talk VP.

Kerry needs a Southerner. There are two in the race. Edwards and Clark. Who do you think Kerry will pick?

[chequita guevara]

The Dean campaign is broke!?! Man, when they ran his campaign like a internet start-up, they went all the way, didn't they?

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Ned
I also agree that it is time to talk VP.

Kerry needs a Southerner. There are two in the race. Edwards and Clark. Who do you think Kerry will pick?

Edwards or someone not running. Him and Clark don't seem like a good pair to me.

Originally posted by MrFun
Dean is not going to do very well from here on probably due to his finances -- see my last post, Drogue.

Neither has Kerry. Kerry ran huge amounts of ads for Iowa and NH, spending very little in the Feb 3rd states. He was apparently the only candidate not already running TV ads just after Iowa (someone posted the article then).

Dean started with $40 million, Kerry with less than $40 million. My money's that Dean still has more than Kerry. Maybe not enough to challenge Bush, but enough to stand a good chance in the Primary. Also, Edwards has had peanuts (comparitively) the whole time, IIRC.

They all need more money, and I don't think Dean is worse hit than Kerry, who asked supporters to get more funding. I think Dean just needs the money now, for the Feb 3rd states, which is why he's asked.

[MrFun]

So Dean has more money than Kerry in terms of campaign financing, yet Dean is the one asking 500 staffers to go for two weeks without pay??

[Drogue]

Yes. Dean probably reckons the money is worth the publicity for it. It may even be a stunt to get more donations. Kerry had the boost of money from Iowa, but I can't believe Dean's spent more than Kerry and is losing as much as he is. Unless he's already spent a lot in Feb 3rd states, which Kerry hasn't, in which case Kerry has more money, but Dean has better publicity in those states, putting Dean in a stronger position.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
No northern democrat can beat Bush.

No Senator since Kennedy has been elected President. There. Now you have something that you can repeat ad nauseum that won't be as annoying to the people that read this thread and will be more correct. Or you could at least try to do a credible job of questioning the fallacy that the Dems can win without carrying at least parts of the South? Harping on the Northern Democrat designation is ignorant and only encourages people to ignore you.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Drogue
Yes. Dean probably reckons the money is worth the publicity for it. It may even be a stunt to get more donations. Kerry had the boost of money from Iowa, but I can't believe Dean's spent more than Kerry and is losing as much as he is. Unless he's already spent a lot in Feb 3rd states, which Kerry hasn't, in which case Kerry has more money, but Dean has better publicity in those states, putting Dean in a stronger position.

We'll see how this turns out.