Anti-intellectualism

[Monk]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp I used to get beaten up at school regularly, but as it was for wearing make-up I don't think it has much bearing on this discussion.

You were a devoted fan of The Cure!

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
lol OMFG PWNDD!!!11!!!!1

You are about to enter...
The Ignore zone

[Drake Tungsten]

You were a devoted fan of The Cure!

That, or a budding transvestite.

[Atahualpa]

You're right. I'm "assuming," based on experience, that the "intellectual" is going to get flak for being an arrogant twit -- that the intellectual is not as socially able as the rugby player, because the rugby player doesn't act like a condescending blowhard when he answers questions in class. Your "in the same manner" qualifier implies that you're asking questions in the same manner as a rugby player -- so, try being a rugby player for awhile, ask questions in the same manner, and report back on the results.

I thinks thats because the rugby player will answer on the same intelligence level as the questioner. Or at least answer on a common ground, whereas the intellectual would have to step down, because most probably the crowd doesnt want to step up. And when he doesnt want to step down, he is considered a smart ass.
But I think thats just to hide that for yourself you are a lazy ass ;-)
In General there is this fear that you get into a situation with lots of people and it proves you are a dumbass. Talking with an intellectual this situation would be much more likely, maybe a reason for more tense situations and hostilities.

Also I believe that clever people are considered to be dangerous and as such there would be natural resentments. Because obviously physical power is much better to weigh. Or at least you believe you can weigh it better. Besides there is pretty good protection from law against physical attacks. However there is only weak or no protection if you were out-witted!
In the intellectual world the strength of a person is hidden very well if you dont know him real good.

I think thats one reason why people are more suspicioius to intellectuals.

Another reason is that because you can hide your intellectual strengths you can also bluff or fake.

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Guynemer


Anti-intellectual bastard!


HATE CRIME!!!

INTELLECTUAL!!!

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
Intellectuals also seem to ignore human emotions and feelings with their pursuit for absolute rationality. Well guess what, we aren't rational creatures.

What say you to folk (like me) with both exceptional IQ and EQ?
I'm friends with the Professors, even the arrogant ones. I'm also quite a fan of the insightful and thoughtful people at my college.
...Yes I do get along well with folk who I do not have a long-term goal of killing, TYVM. Just that that group does not happen to include the majority of our species.

Just because it is difficult to express why people take a particular position (ie, provide a "logical" sequence or whatever) does not mean their position is any less valid.

No, but nor does it validate our agreement with their position.
Whether their position is 'valid' or not (who validates life goals anyway?), we can still 'validate' our opposition to it.
Not that I believe my goal of destroying the Smacktard cycle is inherently 'good', but that I judge it to be the thing to do, to support the things I like.
My likes, values, beliefs and feelings are subjective and I don't think they're 100% Correct (Something subjective isn't even on a Right-Wrong slider), but I use them as bases for stuff I do.

Funny how you can never escape at least -some- form of presumption...

Why do I lift weights..because I like the feeling it gives. Why do I dislike ***s..because I dislike being around them and what they say.
You could argue that it's the intellectuals who are just not in touch with their feelings and that.

Some are, some aren't. Though chances are we have different feelings to your ilk.
BTW I don't like this big grouping of folk into an 'intellectuals' box... I reckon that there are different types!
(No I am not going to supply other boxes for you to put them in. Try to be boxless.)

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
That sounds familiar!! All that relativism means however is that we cannot impose one view upon another. However, we can attack the strength of the logic used to back it up.

We are never 'told' the truth or 'proven' false.
We are the masters of what be believe, and in many ways, how we react.
It is only us that can change what we believe, and it is we that are the cause of what we feel - not anyone else.
We can always give each-other incentives to act or believe a certain way, of course, but the decision lands back with the person.

***s?? What are ***s?

I think they're the ****** that **** with the *********** of the *******, if you get what I mean.

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
"You are not going to get very far in this debate"

This isn't a debate. You came here with a problem, and people are trying to give suggestions as to what is wrong.

The world is what we make it out to be.
I'm basically here to post my opinion.

Perhaps an obession about being right and debating is part of the problem?

It's entirely possible that a skew towards this side of the spectrum is a problem... but there are different problems for A-type AND C-type personalities. Even mediation and moderation leaves something behind.
Problem at hand? Anti-Intellectualism.
A-type solution: Use them smarts to run your enemies into the ground!
B-type solution: They can keep their ways to themselves while your brilliance nets you a good job and a fine life.
C-type solution: Change yourself so that you fit in with the Anti-intellectuals, and it's no longer a problem.

Problems beg Solutions, but there are lots of ways to solve a problem, and each solution entails problems of its own.

Read over your posts in this thread. It shouldn't be too hard to see why you provoke hostility in people.

Well I'm not provoked and I can't see where the problem lies.
...
Am I an arrogant intellectual bastard too?

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
A debate is not an example of penis envy.

It is for some people. (Looks at some unnamed OT posters)

Yet most people are seemingly able to read and be logical with my posts, and get involved in a good constructive, non hostile debate.

This, unfortunately, is because we are so much smarter, more accepting, and better at understanding than the people off the 'Poly website.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by reds4ever
Don't bite my head off lads, but in apportioning the blame, maybe youre confusing 'intellectualism' for 'poor people skills' or varying combinations of the two? Just a thought, I'm back off to play Dominoes on Yahoo! ;O)

I've been through this one. There is nothing wrong with my social skills - yes, I am pretty outgoing but that is about the only thing that I can be accused of. Novartis tried to blame my social skills for them getting rid of me, but how come no one ever had a problem coming to me when they needed help, or in any other place I have ever worked I have always been very popular...

[Provost Harrison]

...of course, apart from a vocal few who seem to go out of their way to make my life difficult.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova

Then I replaced you.
There is only one word capable of harnessing the power of this instance.
You, sir, have been

0WN3D

Who cares? He's just a camp, stuck up, introverted, psuedo intellectual anyway, fvck him!!!!!

just kidding Whaleboy

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Ramo
Who doesn't use their intellect for recreation or career?

Recreation: My Frat house enemies
Career: George W. Bush

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
...of course, apart from a vocal few who seem to go out of their way to make my life difficult.

fvck them as well then!!

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by reds4ever


fvck them as well then!!

Oh believe me I do But it is when they get in my way - deliberately try and **** things up...