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  • #91
    Originally posted by chegitz guevara


    I was looking for work 8+ hours a day. I got a job before my unemployment ran out (though I did need an extention). Towards the end we were planning on moving to what we hoped would be a better job market.
    bull****.

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    • #92
      Spiffor, but the burden of proof (UNSC 1441) was on Saddam to account for WMD and precusor materials that he admitted having.
      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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      • #93
        Originally posted by TCO


        bull****.
        **** you!
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #94
          Re: I really don't understand about Kerry...

          Originally posted by Lancer
          How did he end up winning in Iowa? Dean was touted as being the most Bush hating, ultra left boy on the block. Kerry on the other hand served in the military, supported the war? -Not sure about this. Anyway he's more centrist than Dean. Dean only took 3rd! So is the democratic party more centrist than supposed?

          Also, Edwards seems to me like a guy that could run well against Bush, (win?) so is he on the democratic left or center? Where does he stand on Iraq? What are his chances of getting the nomination?
          Kerry's voting record and policies are more "liberal" than Deans.

          The dopes in America who believe what the media tells them think Dean is more "liberal".

          plus, I think the pundits were completely wrong about Dean being the front-runner. They relied on polls where more than 30% of the people were undecided. When people finally decided, they mostly went with Kerry or Edwards. Plus, Kucinich supporters went with Edwards via a deal DK made with JE. Dean has a hardcore group of supporters... probably about 16-18% of Democrats... but these people are mostly newcomers and people who like Dean's anti-establishment campaign. It's not necessarily about being "ultra-left" as it is about not liking Washington politicians. But most Americans are status quo types and go with establishment candidates. I'm not surprised too much about Kerry's win in Iowa.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Ned
            Spiffor, but the burden of proof (UNSC 1441) was on Saddam to account for WMD and precusor materials that he admitted having.
            so big deal? I did a thread reporting how the US is violating numerous resolutions regarding the use of Depleted Uranium... should the world attack the US for violating resolutions?

            1441 is just another lame excuse...
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Sava
              so big deal? I did a thread reporting how the US is violating numerous resolutions regarding the use of Depleted Uranium... should the world attack the US for violating resolutions?
              No one cares at all about resolutions that don't come out of the UNSC. I thought we established that already in your troll on the subject.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #97
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                No one cares at all about resolutions that don't come out of the UNSC. I thought we established that already in your troll on the subject.
                you are right, which is sad, nobody cares about the utter stupidity and hypocrisy in our country...
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Sava
                  you are right, which is sad, nobody cares about the utter stupidity and hypocrisy in our country...
                  That's not it at all. No one cares at all about things that lack even the pretense of being binding on anyone. Why should they?
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    That's not it at all. No one cares at all about things that lack even the pretense of being binding on anyone. Why should they?
                    actually, that is it... nobody cares that the world community imposes silly and inane resolutions on one country, then the US, uses said violation as a pretext to war... and in the process goes against the world communities' wishes and invades while violating resolutions in the process.

                    It is hypocrisy... and it is really quite pathetic that dopey hawks use the UN resolution in their argument for war, while then calling the UN "irrelevant"... and citing the US doesn't need the world's permission to unjustly invade another nation.

                    So which is it? Does the UN matter? Either it does or doesn't. Dopey hawks and conservatives can't have it both ways.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Originally posted by Sava
                      actually, that is it... nobody cares that the world community imposes silly and inane resolutions on one country,
                      Those came down from the UNSC and had the needed pretense of binding authority. Hence people cared. So you're wrong off the bat. Really if you can not make the trolls harder to disprove it ceases to be entertaining.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Those came down from the UNSC and had the needed pretense of binding authority. Hence people cared. So you're wrong off the bat. Really if you can not make the trolls harder to disprove it ceases to be entertaining.
                        makes no difference, they are both UN resolutions...

                        plus it's great that you can only insult me because you have no sound points to make... my arguments are based with fact and logic... your sole argument is "BLLAAHHHH SAVA IS A TROLL"

                        it's really sad that you lose debates to the likes of me
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • Originally posted by Sava
                          it's really sad that you lose debates to the likes of me
                          We're debating? I thought we were threadjacking. I still haven't seen the facts and logic you speak of.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • Thanks for the replies. I was reading and thinking of my replies them, but they got to be so many that I've condensed it down to 'oh, huh'.
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                            • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              We're debating? I thought we were threadjacking. I still haven't seen the facts and logic you speak of.
                              about threadjacking

                              re:facts... I'm referring to my other thread about the hypocrisy of the whole UN excuse for pro-war. Go there and attempt to debate me about that subject.
                              [/end threadjack]
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • Originally posted by Ned
                                Spiffor, but the burden of proof (UNSC 1441) was on Saddam to account for WMD and precusor materials that he admitted having.
                                Yes, but there was no indication whatsoever that he intended to use them against the US.

                                I'll tell you what: France has Wommdies, and is perfectly able to have all your major cities glow in the dark. Does it make France an immediate danger to your country? Nope, simply because we don't intend to use them on you.

                                Same goes for Iraq: even if Iraq had wommdies, there was no indication whatsoever it intended to use them against the US. The "immediate threat" crap was pure propaganda.
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