Proof that American middle class has become too alienated from the reality of warfare

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn


Don't bust a gut now, Tass.

It's difficult not to

[St Leo]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Leo: Hey, I love unsubstantiated cheap shots too. Especially ones with winky faces so I can remain ambiguous as to what I actually mean.

Wanna have sex?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I couldn't stand to watch this horror more than 10 seconds. Is there any moment where you actually see soldiers doing a soldier's job?

Being a soldier means putting up with hours upon hours of boredom puchated by moments of intense pain and action.

It means standing in line for chow, mail and just about everything else. It means sleeping in the rain and mud, in a tent, or occasionally in the barracks. It means walking, and walking, and walking, with the occasional ride. All followed by a few moments of fighting someone you may or may not have even seen.


Unless your the airforce or navy

[Nubclear]

I sense hostility.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I sense hostility.

yeah well, the general rule is whatever accomidations the army has, the airforce is at least two steps above. If we are sleeping on the ground, they have tent with cots. If we have tents with a cot they are usually in some barracks somewhere. If we have barracks, they usually have some nice hotel room provided for them. And the first time I ate in an Air Force mess hall I thought I was in a restaurant
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[Nubclear]

Why not join the Airforce then?

[JohnT]

They have higher qualifications and standards.

[Nubclear]

Why the cute smiley?

[JohnT]

Hey, I love unsubstantiated cheap shots too. Especially ones with winky faces so I can remain ambiguous as to what I actually mean.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Ok, granted. But what happens after they die? Its going to happen soon... So then what? Will Europe then regress to the likes of (in your mind) the United States? That logic is ridiculous.

Your idea that countries don't get knowledge nor experience is completely bull. There is something called "collective memory" or "history" if you prefer it that way, that strongly influences what knowledge and what values the people of a country will learn.
I've never experienced war, and I sure hope I never will. But in my childhood, I was drowned under TV docs about war, under comics about war, I listened to my grandpa's war memories. Heck, every time I travel between France and Germany by car, I see the names of massive slaughters, I see mass graveyards, I see fields that I know were more barren than the moon a mere 90 years ago... In Germany, I lived in Stuttgart, a city in which basically nothing is older than WW2.

This is living memory. I didn't experience war firsthand, but the shadow of the war is somehting I experience firsthand very often (and in fact, everyday when in Stuttgart). The memories of destruction, the memories of our terrible mistakes as Europeans, the memories of the horror our civilization brought to earth will not disappear when the last vet will die. They'll take many generations to fade away.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Sprayber
It means standing in line for chow, mail and just about everything else. It means sleeping in the rain and mud, in a tent, or occasionally in the barracks. It means walking, and walking, and walking, with the occasional ride. All followed by a few moments of fighting someone you may or may not have even seen.

The few pics I've seen in this emotefest were about soldiers hugging and looking all heroic and great (and I don't think there is anything really great in waiting in line for chow, sorry).

Besides, during the war in Iraq, I assume the moments of action were more frequent than in peacetime in some German base

For some reason, I doubt the video shows either a scene of killing, or even a scene of boring daily life without any glitz.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by DanS
What's wrong with the video?

It is an emotefest. It is a completely artificial displa of emotion -oh our boys are great, we love'em- that has nothing to do with the dull/boring/enraging/slaughtering reality of the field.

I don't need soldiers raping babies, but I think it is an extremely bad tribute to the soldiers to show them as all huggy-nilly rather than in a true light. This "tribute" is obviously meant for the civilian audience back home. I'd personally feel insulted if I was a soldier, because it looks highly patronizing.

[Nubclear]

Or your just jealous cause American soldiers are better than French soldiers

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by JohnT
They have higher qualifications and standards.

No, cause I really wanted to wear the cute black beret.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Spiffor

The few pics I've seen in this emotefest were about soldiers hugging and looking all heroic and great (and I don't think there is anything really great in waiting in line for chow, sorry).

Besides, during the war in Iraq, I assume the moments of action were more frequent than in peacetime in some German base

For some reason, I doubt the video shows either a scene of killing, or even a scene of boring daily life without any glitz.

The site isn't going to show pictures of death. It's not going to show accidental firing on friendly targets. It's not going to show the instances when a soldier dies cause he ****s up. It is going to show soldiers missing their families and all that stuff because that is the sites intended audience.