Proof that American middle class has become too alienated from the reality of warfare

[Ecthy]

PRC! PRC!

[Nubclear]

Deutschland!

[Ted Striker]

Bangladesh!!!

[DinoDoc]

Canada!

[Kuciwalker]

[Agathon]

Don't you find it slightly disturbing that human beings have almost always tried to portray soldiers as beings of higher moral virtue than normal people?

I mean, their job is blasting other people to smithereens and there are continual incidences of raping local women, massacring civilians and other such virtuous acts.

More evidence for collective human insanity.

[JohnT]

Well, don't you find it slightly disturbing that human beings have almost always tried to portray Communists as beings of higher moral virtue than normal people?

I mean, their job is killing those who disagree with them, starving farmers and intellectuals and there are continual incidences of imprisoning dissenters, spending 50% of GNP on armaments, and other such virtuous acts.

[Ecthy]

Originally posted by skywalker

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Sprayber
It's not going to show accidental firing on friendly targets. It's not going to show the instances when a soldier dies cause he ****s up. It is going to show soldiers missing their families and all that stuff because that is the sites intended audience.

Exactly.

They're coddling the ignorant and basically saying "Everything's going to be all right. You just keep on praying at night and writing sappy tribute poems, and the big strong rangers will protect you from the bogey man."

[Spiffor]

@ JohnT

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


How many of 'em are still around that dealt with WW2 and earlier? The cold war thing was mostly crap for whiners.

Well hardly. I happened to catch the end of the cold war as a bright young thing and it was a real war - very similar to the current war on terror. It was global and people took sides and fought on a whole lot of fronts. It was sometimes dangerous and deadly. I certainly got into a couple of hairy spots - but then when I had hair

I'd say we're at about 1948 in Cold war time right now. This WoT is creating wonderful career opportunities for people like old horsie.

It will probably see me right through to retirement

[MikeH]

Oh my god, that initial site in the first post is horrendous.Pass the vomit smileys!

[Alexander's Horse]

What gets me is the USA USA! crowd - you'd think after all the evidence that patriotic little guys get screwed they'd run a mile from war - but nooo, here they are again, all queuing up to be cannon fodder - or cheering on people to go and get shot at - which is so much worse - and can be kind of cowardly to my thinking.

IThis time it will be different eh?

[Spiffor]

Here you are

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Your idea that countries don't get knowledge nor experience is completely bull. There is something called "collective memory" or "history" if you prefer it that way

Is it now? Based on what? Collective memory? Bull, there is no evidence to suggest that collective memory even exists. Its a nice catchphrase we use to justify generalizations and stereotypes; a tradition you are perpetuating by spouting this crap out all over the place.

But what you're saying is that its part of your "collective memory" to be averted to war? Well isn't that noble, but "memory" is a function of an organ inside your head called your brain, and last time I checked countries don't have brains, and therefore can't remember anything. People have brains, and everyone is different, and for you to assume that just because YOUR brain happens to be averted to war, that the brains of your countrymen must be as well (simply by virtue of them being your countrymen) is a dangerous assumption, which borders on ethnocentricsm and even narcicism.

...I was drowned in tv ads

Yeah, I'm sure you were, but do you really think thats all that different from anywhere else? You really think growing up in Boston I never saw a tv ad depicting war negatively... many, many times? Is that what you really think? Remember how I mentioned ethnocentricism? Also, is there any way for you to prove that I wasn't, or were you just hoping everyone would take you at your word?