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  • #31
    Then again, Sava has never (to my recollection) expressed such pathetic remarks towards homosexuals. Perhaps I was wrong...

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    • #32
      socalled 'butch' homosexuals


      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        Which means USA is valuing Bayer's profits over the life of millions.


        Bayer's profits allow it to save billions (through R&D). So would you rather see, millions or billions dead? Looks like you picked billions, you butcher .
        They are not making any profit in the Third World, because no one there can afford their drugs.

        Is too much to ask them, say, every time they sell a pill in the US, they have to send one in humanitarian help?
        R&D is costly, but manufacturing is nothing anyway. This is what I call a reasonable compromise that makes both profits and social justice possible.

        But the US government will NEVER do it. They are defending free market only when it serves their interest (see: agricultural subsidies). They are not even close to having a morally coherent point of view.

        Free market can only stay "FREE" as long as someone who is not interested in profit is making sure it does. THAT should be the government's work. And you can expect any corporation in the world to fight to the death to prevent this from ever happening.

        As long as the government remain allied with huge corporations on that matter, I will consider it a THREAT.
        In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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        • #34
          Again: Bayer is a German company. You don't like the way they do business, go whine at the Germans.

          Secondly: Where in the world did you get the idea that only the US subsidizes agriculture? Or is your argument based upon the belief that only US subsidies are detrimental to the third world?

          Wait... maybe I'm not if you include Europe in your definition of "Third World".

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tripledoc
            I never said that homosexuals can't treat woman correctly. Homosexual can treat woman very good.

            However many socalled 'butch' homosexuals have very bad experience with woman. They stay in trenches too long. Or they are in strange schools. Or they are too long with stockbrokers.
            First, I don't know that Scaife is a homosexual--I've never seen anything stating he was. Considering he's funded some of the most vile, homophobic wings of the Republican Party, I doubt it.

            Second, while there are undoubtedly some homosexuals that are nasty towards women, there are probably a lot more heterosexual men who behave the same way. By and large, homosexual men tend to get along with women famously, often making the straights jealous.

            So your assertion is patently ludicrous. And this still doesn't explain your statement about hating the Republicans because they are run by "pimps and homosexuals." Care to elaborate, or just back pedal some more?
            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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            • #36
              Bayer is a German company. Being European, I thought you would know that. If you don't like how they conduct business, go and whine at the Germans.
              Bayer as a symbol of pharmaceutical holdings is WESTERN. Pfizer or any other corps are no different.

              And now to make sure I am heard once and for all:

              US FOREIGN POLICY=GERMANY FOREIGN POLICY=FRANCE=RUSSIA=CHINA=ANY FVCKING COUNTRY

              No morale whatsoever, no regards towards human rights. Complaining against the US is complaining against their allies, and also against their enemies who are using similar tactics.

              On a sidenote, I find it strange that you feel any kind of "connection" towards businesses. They don't care about you, that's for sure. If you were denouncing a company of my own country, I would certainly agree with you if you had some facts. I'm not patriotically idiot to the point of defending damn businesses.
              In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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              • #37
                Oncle Boris, you probably should open a new thread where your points could be discussed. This one is doomed because homosexual nazi republican media tycoons will not allow the truth to come out
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JohnT
                  Then again, Sava has never (to my recollection) expressed such pathetic remarks towards homosexuals. Perhaps I was wrong...
                  So Social Science is pathetic?

                  There are many forms of homosexuals.
                  Republican Party is very 'butch'.

                  Why would Ashcroft be so worried about homosexulity?

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                  • #39
                    Is too much to ask them, say, every time they sell a pill in the US, they have to send one in humanitarian help?


                    Yes. The expense would be ridiculous. Would the government pay for it, or would we just require them to do so out of pocket? And it is all well and good to take away profits, but then who will invest in the company? And if people don't invest, then what will the company make.

                    If you want to destroy the drug industry go right ahead, just don't complain when another plague hits.

                    Free market can only stay "FREE" as long as someone who is not interested in profit is making sure it does.




                    Free market can only remain free as long as it is not free
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                      Care to elaborate, or just back pedal some more?
                      Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft are all socalled 'butch' homosexual.

                      Bush very much worry about his physical appearance.

                      Cheney is married to an ugly woman.

                      Rumsfeld is married to whom?

                      Ashcroft is very shy, and treats women badly, by not allowing them to have abortion.

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                      • #41


                        Ok, so you're against the entire thread of Western Civilization as it has developed over the past 2,000 years. So why single out Americans?

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                        • #42
                          On a sidenote, I find it strange that you feel any kind of "connection" towards businesses. They don't care about you, that's for sure. If you were denouncing a company of my own country, I would certainly agree with you if you had some facts. I'm not patriotically idiot to the point of defending damn businesses.


                          To each his own, child. I find it strange that you look at government policy and blame it on businesses. And we all know how threatening those businesses are, what with their standing armies, their judges and jails, and their nuclear capabilities.

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                          • #43
                            Again: Bayer is a German company. You don't like the way they do business, go whine at the Germans.
                            actually Bayer, the one that produces Bayer drugs sold in the US, is not German though there is a German drug company also named Bayer with the same logo, etc. After the First World War, American entrepreneurs stole a whole lot of German products and made no attempt to cover it up as they kept the names of the German products. Hence, Bayer in America is essentially a copy-cat of Bayer in Germany and the two companies have no relation though they are, on the surface, identical. It's just like Budweiser as we know it (Anheuser-Busch) having no relation to the original German/Czech Budweiser Co
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • #44
                              "American protectionism is the problem!
                              A December report by the U.S. Agriculture Department estimated that agricultural support in the United States is worth about 21 percent of the country's production value, while it reaches 35 percent in Europe and almost 60 percent in Japan. U.S. tariffs average 12 percent, EU tariffs 30 percent and Japan's almost 50 percent, the report said. The Washington Times January 24, 2003 "

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                              • #45
                                Speer, you don't know what the hell you're talking about:

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