Libya announces end to all weapons programs

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Ned
Howard Dean, " I congratulate Prime Minister Blair and the US negotiators on their success in persuading Moammar Kaddafi to give up his weapons of mass destruction and allow inspectors to verify compliance. I only hope that these inspectors are UN inspectors and not American inspectors because only UN inspectors would have any credibility in the international community. When the UN inspectors said that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, they were right. We should have trusted them rather than trust the war mongering Bush administration. This is why we need the UN to lead this effort because we cannot trust Bush."

I guess Dean can't count backwards either...

In a televised address from London, England, Blair said Gadhafi had approached British and U.S. officials in March to see if they could resolve the issue of its weapons programs.

March... March... was there anything going on in the ME at that time that might've effected this change of heart?

[DanS]

Hmmm... March... ??

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Sprayber


Hirohito has what do to do with this? I'm sure you can bring something up that has happened a little more recently.

Hirohito was the Emperor of WW2 Japan, but he was allowed to stay in power after the war, all the way into his death just a few years ago. Kadhafi was considered to be in the same league as Saddam and Osama. US even air bombed his private residence, but now it seems like he will be forgiven. I don't know if it's good or bad. I can say for sure that forgiving Hirohito made the world a better place, as the Japanese followed his lead and became friends of America. Forgiving Saddam would probably not have the same effect though...

At least I'm sure my neighbours 300 meters away from where I sit now will not forgive Kadhafi for Lockerbie, despite a 10 M$ damage tribute. Their daughter died in the chrash, and no tributes or excuses will bring her back.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Ned
Howard Dean, " I congratulate Prime Minister Blair and the US negotiators on their success ..."

Not Blair and Bush. Uh huh.

Deanspeak.

[Sirotnikov]

[deadly give away]

Spoiler:

Ooooh, ooh, I know!!! I know!!! They attacked Iraq - a country with a WMD program!!!

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Ned
Howard Dean, " I congratulate Prime Minister Blair and the US negotiators on their success in persuading Moammar Kaddafi to give up his weapons of mass destruction and allow inspectors to verify compliance. I only hope that these inspectors are UN inspectors and not American inspectors because only UN inspectors would have any credibility in the international community. When the UN inspectors said that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, they were right. We should have trusted them rather than trust the war mongering Bush administration. This is why we need the UN to lead this effort because we cannot trust Bush."

While Dean seems to be an idiot in the same league (but on the opposite side) as Bush, he is right on this topic. Hans Blix is about to be choosen as Scandinavian of the Year. UN was right, and you were wrong.

[Sirotnikov]

Chem Ollie - Lockerbie is just one incident. Gadaffi iirc is not as crazy as saddam, and ever since he was attacked, there weren't claims of him being involved in terrorism.

It's his WMD programs that are scary.

[JohnT]

Problem is that Hirohito was nothing more than a prop for his war-mongering generals (Tojo, etc) and did not, himself, plan Japan's WW2 strategy. Leaving him in place was OK as it wasn't him who started the war.

[RGBVideo]

Ooooh, ooh, I know!!! I know!!! They attacked Iraq - a country with a WMD program!!!

Uhh... there's a problem. Iraq had no WMD program immediately before the 2003 war. According to information currently available, it was destroyed in 1991.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Chem Ollie - Lockerbie is just one incident. Gadaffi iirc is not as crazy as saddam, and ever since he was attacked, there weren't claims of him being involved in terrorism.

It's his WMD programs that are scary.

Lockerbie was Europe's 9/11. Don't under-estimate our hatred for Libya after it.

[Sirotnikov]

Chem - Saddam had a year and a half from 9/11 when Bush first threatened him, to prepare and hide evidence of his programs, or even destroy them completely.

Why did he make it hard for the UN inspectors then?- probably so they won't find out that he had a program until very recently.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

Why did he make it hard for the UN inspectors then?- probably so they won't find out that he had a program until very recently.

Because the US was using them to spy on him, and he knew it.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by JohnT
Problem is that Hirohito was nothing more than a prop for his war-mongering generals (Tojo, etc) and did not, himself, plan Japan's WW2 strategy. Leaving him in place was OK as it wasn't him who started the war.

The Emperor of Austria did not start WW1 either.

[RGBVideo]

Chem - Saddam had a year and a half from 9/11 when Bush first threatened him, to prepare and hide evidence of his programs, or even destroy them completely.

Uhh... so, if he destroyed the programme, what was the reason for attack?

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Chem - Saddam had a year and a half from 9/11 when Bush first threatened him, to prepare and hide evidence of his programs, or even destroy them completely.

Why did he make it hard for the UN inspectors then?- probably so they won't find out that he had a program until very recently.

Because he's an imbecil idiot (I'm drunk, expect a more serious answer another day)

EDIT: Agathon is not yet as drunk as me. (he's 6 hours behind) What he said...