"African American"

[Az]

Don't pretend you support me, Japher. not only that you don't agree that there shouldn't be different 'cultures', you also are a racist.

[Q Classic]

however:
ethnicity is not bull****.
making it completely dominate every aspect of your being?
that is bull****.

[Drogue]

I agree completely with Azazel and JW. I don't see black as a derogitory term at all. Sure, be proud of your ethnicity if you want, and let others be proud of theirs. But personally, I think ethnicity is bull****. African-Americans are Americans. The African part is superfluous. Now, I use the terms black and white to distinguise between the colour of someones skin, when pointing people out, the same way I would call someone with blonde hair "blonde" or someone with brown hair "brunette". I don't mean any of them as an insult or a compliment, just a fact, used to describe someone's appearance.

[C0ckney]

i think, (and lord knows you won't get me saying this very often) che has a point. i don't think of black or asian people here as english, it's not something i do deliberatly, when i'm watching the football ashley cole or sol campbel are every bit as engligh as michael owen or wanye rooney. but this situation often arises:

me: 'ere you know what dave said to me yesterday?
andy: what the welsh one?
me: nah the 'arf-nig, y'know the one from from birmingham..

if it was a white guy i'd just call him english (or maybe a brummie), and i know i'm not alone in this.

[Tripledoc]

Well, as for oratorial greatness no-one in American modern social history beats the talent of reverend Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and Lous Farakhan. And I actually think they wrote/write their own speeches.

I think that the term Afro-American is some insidious attempt to somehow trick the black populace into thinking that they are actually on equal terms with all the other hyphenated Americans.

What I like about black culture is the overt militarism and truthfulness of it. Compare to the Judaic Anglo-Saxon bland middle-class culture which in the end has earned America nothing but derision from Europe.

In fact if it was not for black dissent America would be an incrediebly boring country.

Consider also how black culture is willing to take inspiration from great white literary figures like William Burroughs and Eminem, historial figures like Jesus Christ and Adolf Hitler, and one will begin to appreciate the socalled 'Public Enemy'.

[C0ckney]

someone please tell me trippledoc is extracting the michael here...

[loinburger]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
And they call themselves Arabs or Arab-Americans, don't they, loiny?

Yes, because if they called themselves African-Americans, then that would imply that they were black despite this not being the case. What's your point?

I recall that "black-American" was supposed to replace "African-American" at one point because the latter term isn't nearly as precise as the former term. Sure, if everybody in Africa were black then "African-American" would be equivalent to "black-American," but even if we discount European immigrants to Africa then the terms are still not equivalent. It was several years ago that I read about this proposed change in nomeclature, though, and it appears that the new term didn't really stick, since "African-American" and "black" are still used interchangeably without "black-American" ever coming into the picture.

Youst because you Wonderbread mother ****ers come from the boring-ass suburbs and have had all culture stripped from you but what you can buy at the store doesn't mean all Americans need to be as bland and as boring as you!

This is why I'm always left floundering in these threads -- the use of the term "African-American" may strike me as being imprecise and probably unnecessary, but I certainly don't believe that this warrants its being struck from the lexicon, but at the same time I certainly don't believe that personal attacks are warranted against those who believe that the term is imprecise and probably unnecessary. It leaves me in a position wherein I can't agree with anybody without being tainted by their jackassery. For Christ's sake, not every issue has to be about the ultimate battle between Good and Evil.

[centrifuge]

Nobody has ever called me a Chechoslovakian/German-American.

Maybe back in the 1800's...

[Japher]

"Maybe back in the 1800's..."

Man your old

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loinburger

[Q Classic]

the problem with being part of a minority is that often times, if you're not a radical, you end up being quite ambivalent about race.

it happens all the time with asian americans.

those of us born here think of ourselves more as americans than anything else. to "natural" americans here--the white and black people--they can't tell if we're native or not, and so they assume almost always that we're foreign.

when we visit our ancestor's homelands, which are not our homelands, we don't quite fit in, either. they know, somehow, that we're not asian, but rather american.

so there's always asian pride. and there's always a small soreness that we're not "american" enough.

[Japher]

I wonder if there are any Africans who are white and get offended by people using the name of a continent to describe the color of a person who has never set foot on the continent? Or even non-whites for that matter.

Are Russians Asian? Or only some?

What about Latino's? Heck they never even spoke Latin!

I have 2 solutions to this problem, both involve using words that have no conotation to skin color or "place of origon" since the first is "racist" and the second horse dunky anyway.

Idea 1: Change all racial slurs to PC terms. Changing the way the word is ment to be used will temper the ppl on the word, and not give us anything to insult the other races with.

Idea 2: Call people of a certain race based on physical characteristics associated with a majority of the race besides skin color. I.e. White - Round-eye, Asia - Slant-eye, Black - Nappy-hair, Latino's - Shorty

[GePap]

Someone could be Black without being African American-remember that in the south any "black" blood made you black, so having someone who had one great grandmother "black" would be "black" as well: Exactlyu the reason why African-American came up.

Now, as for white south Africans, tricky-after all, they are as native Africans as some englishman is a native American after being born in America...

[Q Classic]

idea 2 is the same as idea 1.

[Q Classic]

Now, as for white south Africans, tricky-after all, they are as native Africans as some englishman is a native American after being born in America..

bloodlines should not be the determiner of what ethnicity you are. it is the environment you were raised in.