Spain and Poland can join the United States for all I care

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by paiktis22
France doesnt have birth levels below replacement. Actually it is the most "fertile" country of the EU. Italy on the other hand has the most severe problem in this regard and berlu has enancted legislation. Germany also has that problem but not so severe as italy.

what type of legislation would that be? Make it law that each man must father children with multiple women?

[Whoha]

total: 4.37 deaths/1,000 live births

still, even if it were zero, 1.85 does not cover even the Mother or Father.

[Bereta_Eder]

financial support to families with many babies.

but only italian families, which accuse him of racism

[Bereta_Eder]

so with a 2,11 it IS above replacement. sicne the death is 4/1000?

[Kramerman]

thats pretty cool

[Whoha]

Kramerman:Anti-abortion stuff,incentives for children,punishment for staying single,that sort of thing.

Italy so far is(in one town) giving 12k dollars for each child born.

[Kramerman]

... an ambition man could make millions...

[Whoha]

Paiktis22: That is probable, but I do not know.

of those 1000 births, if 4 die, then to be at replacement level 1000 births(4 of those die) have to happen to 473 parent groups(mother and father) to be at the replacement rate. France is at 1.85, so theres no way. The site doesn't list statistics like that So there is no way to tell whether 2.11 would be above the replacement rate or not for France, But I think 2.11 was calculated as a general base line for developed countries.

[Inverse Icarus]

bicamerial legistaltion!

if the majority of people in Europe want something, but the majority of countries in Europe DON'T, well you have quite an issue to address there, no?

off the top of my head I can't think of anything that wouldn't end up a stagnant beuracracy.

[Whoha]

Also, the above situation assumes that 100% of the population is Heterosexual, and has the requisit number of children, which are obviously invalid assumptions.

[Wernazuma III]

Spain and Poland my ass! At least in this issue, it's simply not fair towards the rest of Europe, especially Germany. I favor the one-man-one-vote thinking, although for that it might be too early. But such an injust key as Spain and Poland try to defend is simply unacceptable.

[Bereta_Eder]

Whoha, if the birth level of france is 2,11 that means 0,11 growing population. gays have nothing to do with that.
its how many babies are indeed born

[Ecthy]

BTW, the US' new debts are 4.4% of the GDP, so chance to join the euro (theoretically). Just for those about to whine how Germany and France want to trule Europe despite our economic "weakness" or something like that.

Core union now.

[Whoha]

The birth level is 1.85 though, 2.11 would only be above replacement if infant mortality were zero or very close. I'll look at that fact sheet and try to figure it out for you.

[Bereta_Eder]

dont look at CIA factbook, its full of mistakes.

The EU commission report placed fertility at above 2 but i dont remember howmuch.