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  • Well, maybe Iraq had Al-Qaeda ties after all.

    Wow.



    Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
    By Con Coughlin
    (Filed: 14/12/2003)


    Iraq's coalition government claims that it has uncovered documentary proof that Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks against the US, was trained in Baghdad by Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist.

    Details of Atta's visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in US history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

    The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph, is dated July 1, 2001 and provides a short resume of a three-day "work programme" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's base in Baghdad.

    In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy".

    The second part of the memo, which is headed "Niger Shipment", contains a report about an unspecified shipment - believed to be uranium - that it says has been transported to Iraq via Libya and Syria.

    Although Iraqi officials refused to disclose how and where they had obtained the document, Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-man Presidential Committee, said the document was genuine.

    "We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," he said. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

    Although Atta is believed to have been resident in Florida in the summer of 2001, he is known to have used more than a dozen aliases, and intelligence experts believe he could easily have slipped out of the US to visit Iraq.

    Abu Nidal, who was responsible for the failed assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982, was based in Baghdad for more than two decades.
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    I'd come to the conclusion that the claims of ties were false.... I'll have to rethink that.

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    • #3
      Ah cmon, that can't be real. I'd like it to be real but no way that's bonafide

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      • #4
        The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph
        Ha, ha, ha.

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        • #5
          Tuomerehu, what happened on 4/26? Every time I see your sig I get curious.

          Sorry for threadjacking.
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          • #6
            Has been asked before.

            Browse the first 10 entries, then try to figure it out yourself.

            EDIT: And I'm sorry for the threadjack, too. Carry on with the on-topic OT discussion.

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            • #7
              It's not the first time the Telegraph had exclusive documents linking Iraq with whatever evil they find (France, Russia or Al Qaeda).

              I remeber that thread, right after the fall of Baghdad, where they pretended to have recovered a top-secret document showing the active collaboration of France with Iraq against the US. I (less distinctively) remeber there were other threads about some other 'breathtaking news' by the Torygraph.

              Either censorship works very, very well; either nobody at all in the world is interested in such proof; or the Telegraph makes up its exclusive documents.

              Until a legitimate news source (even CNN or the Washington Post will do) reports on it, I'll believe it's a fraud like last time.
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              • #8
                Don;t they have yellow journalism laws over in England?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
                  Don;t they have yellow journalism laws over in England?
                  I don't know. But the only time I ever read the Sun online, I was amazed by the utter lack of professionalism. Besically, they depicted a politician they didn't like (the leader of the Lib Dems IIRC), and they explained without any substance that should he come to power, crime would rise dramatically, Britain would be a pawn of Brussels, the British family would be destroyed, kids would consume drugs all day and whatnot.

                  What's worse: I do not exagerate anything here. The Sun writes unsubstantiated attacks that strongly.

                  If there are laws about journalism quality in Britain, I wonder how come the Sun hasn't closed down already.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
                    Don;t they have yellow journalism laws over in England?
                    Yep, if it's not yellow you can really get into some trouble.
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                    • #11
                      If its rubbish, don't read it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tuomerehu
                        Has been asked before.

                        Browse the first 10 entries, then try to figure it out yourself.
                        If it HAS been asked before wouldn't a link to the relevant thread be more appropriate? (and easier)

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                        • #13
                          @ Spiffor. I too remember the earlier "proofs."
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                          • #14
                            Well they have Saddam now. Maybe he will talk, although I doubt it.

                            The NY Times again yesterday reported the controversy concerning Atta's June 2001 visit to Praque. Buried deep in its story was a reference to Atta's 2000 visit to Praque which even the Times admits is confirmed. I have no idea why the Times places such emphasis on the lack of confirmation of the one trip when the earlier trip and contacts with Iraqi intelligence has been confirm.

                            The real question is whether Atta was working on the plot in 2000 when Atta contacted Iraqi intelligence.
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                            • #15
                              There are also various confirmed reports of bin Laden contacting US intelligence...
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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