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  • #31
    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
    So when will Ashcroft do something about the Enron cretins? What, they have too many connections?

    Cool avatar, Wittlich
    Well consider this. This whole thing started in 1991, and it is now 2003 almost 2004 and the trail to sue France has not even begun yet.

    If we apply the same time table to Enron, most likely we wont see the end of that untill around 2014.
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    • #32
      There in front of a California grand jury!!! Run! God knows what stupid thing our moronic judges will do now...
      Monkey!!!

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      • #33
        I hope this ends up in Court in California and France in the end up paying billions of dollars to the US.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Jack_www
          I hope this ends up in Court in California and France in the end up paying billions of dollars to the US.
          I see that as a great opprtunity for us to get rid, at last, of a bunch of castastrophic bastards.
          Statistical anomaly.
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          • #35
            Out of Topic ( ), there are rumors that the French are building a case against **** Cheney for minor offences committed when he was President of an Halliburton subsidiary, associated with Technip and two other companies in a consortium building a plant in Nigeria.

            Edit : I wrote D i c k and I got ****. Is it a bad word?
            Statistical anomaly.
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            • #36
              Is this a ***-for-tat or is this a separate case in your mind?
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #37
                As I have not a tortuous mind, I just observe it. It is only a 180 millions $ bribes distributed not by the consortium, but by the Halliburton sub.

                Is not bribery forbidden by US laws?

                Am I wrong in supposing that such an accusation could weaken the Bush/Cheney ticket?
                Statistical anomaly.
                The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DanS
                  A good chunk of the French business elite being brought up on criminal charges in the US doesn't stir your interest?
                  it does, but the US will probably punish them worse than America white collar criminals (*coughfriendsofBush) who screw more people for more money...
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #39
                    Is not bribery forbidden by US laws?
                    Indeed it is. This type would fall under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

                    Am I wrong in supposing that such an accusation could weaken the Bush/Cheney ticket?
                    Tough to know. Depends on how good the case was perceived to be. Would this be an actual indictment (or the French equivalent) of Cheney or an indictment of the subsidiary?
                    Last edited by DanS; December 4, 2003, 15:59.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DanS


                      Indeed it is. This type would fall under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.



                      Tough to know. Depends on how good the case was perceived to be. Would this be an actual indictment (or the French equivalent) of Cheney or an indictment of the subsidiary?
                      The penal responsibility is always held by the highest executive, in person (unless a legal delegation of authority has been made public).

                      A couple of month ago, a former president and two executives of Elf (now Total) have been sentenced of 5 to 8 years of jail (without representation).
                      Statistical anomaly.
                      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                      • #41
                        I remember having read in ]le Canard Enchaîné (the French newspaper specialized in unveiling this kind of politico-financial affairs, but with a fun layout) how the amouts demanded by California progressively worsened, as France refused to settle the affair.

                        At first, those were a mere few millions. Then it became bigger and bigger, and each time, France refused to settle.

                        I suppose attacking Cheney is the best thing to do now. When Cheney will become eligible for a round in prison, I'm sure both the Elysée and the White House will surprisingly understand each other very well.

                        And naturally, the defrauded people could go **** themselves. Who is more important after all? 200,000 anonymous Californians, or the Great François Pinault?
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Spiffor

                          And naturally, the defrauded people could go **** themselves. Who is more important after all? 200,000 anonymous Californians, or the Great François Pinault?
                          What defrauded people are you talking about? Executive life was BANKRUPT. The crime is purely formal : a bank was not allowed then (and it is now I believe - could this be confirmed?) to possess or held shares of an insurance company, and the Credit lyonnais who was financing the acquisition is accused of having hold the shares. Any bank making a loan to a company buying an insurance company can be accused of such a crime.
                          Statistical anomaly.
                          The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                          • #43
                            I suppose attacking Cheney is the best thing to do now. When Cheney will become eligible for a round in prison, I'm sure both the Elysée and the White House will surprisingly understand each other very well.
                            I doubt that's the case. Mostly, these criminal prosecutions are run and overseen by career prosecutors at Justice. Once the trigger is pulled on a criminal lawsuit, it's tough or impossible to go back. Doesn't matter what the French do to Cheney.

                            I think France is misreading the strength of its position and is getting itself into a pickle. As the evidence firmed up, that's when the US demands became progressively larger. It's not tough to do a back of the envelope probability of award x award amount calculation...
                            Last edited by DanS; December 5, 2003, 18:35.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #44
                              And while we are at I do sincerely hope that TDC, in which SBC has 47 percent shares, will get *****-slapped by the Danish tax inspectors to pay up for what they cheated on in their tax. That is one Billion dollars right here. Of course SBC, formerly Ameritech, has never been accused of honesty.


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                              • #45
                                Of course SBC, formerly Ameritech, has never been accused of honesty.
                                I don't know how you can *****, when SBC doesn't even control the company. And when was it accused of dishonesty?
                                Last edited by DanS; December 5, 2003, 19:09.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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