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Originally posted by Tripledoc
The charges brought upon the French are obviously politically motivated.
The charges brought upon the French are obviously politically motivated.
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Yeah, hundreds of thousands of voters being defrauded tend to motivate people to file charges. Would you care to deal with real issues rather than descend to pointless trolls?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
1. So when will Ashcroft do something about the Enron
cretins? What, they have too many connections?
2. Cool avatar, Wittlich
1. That's exactly it UR! Money DOES make the world go around!
2. Thanks, all credit for my Christmas Avatar goes to Hueij - He squared me away in the Community Forum within the Christmas Avatar thread.
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If you weren't so ignorant of the facts this would be more fun, but as it is a quick google search gives lie to the statement. I also seem to recall you removing a similarly stupid post in one of the Iraq threads for threadjacking. I suppose it only counts when people in the peanut gallery do it.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
So when will Ashcroft do something about the Enron cretins? What, they have too many connections?
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Originally posted by Tripledoc
The charges brought upon the French are obviously politically motivated.
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I think any western capatilist nation should be very careful about crticising another nations standards in business.
Lets face it we've all got a lot of dodgy businessmen.Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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Interesting case.
From now on, when a foreign investor contemplates to take over a US firm (particularly if it is broke), he will have better ask first for a justice clearance, if he does not want to be investigated 7 years later and brought to court 12 years later.
I am not sure that this is good for the $.Statistical anomaly.
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I don't know why their going after France, they don't have any money. France has such a poor business environment that most of their companies move to pro business nations like the US and UK to survive.
Course, maybe we can forclose and annex France financially. It would give us two Security Council votes.........
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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
I don't know why their going after France, they don't have any money. France has such a poor business environment that most of companies move to pro business nations like the US and UK to survive.
Course, maybe we can forclose and annex France finacially. It would give us two Security Council votes.........
"And France votes........hold on a sec....... I need to check with my parent country............."
Nice.
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Well, Chirac and his party has good friends in the business. It is sometimes blatant, but we usually don't care...
I recall this wonderful moment with the construction of the Great Stadium. THere were two competitors: Bouygues, which happens to be a big masonry company + the holder of France's main TV station (
) and an independent consortium led by an architect.
Since Bouygues had enough taste to give enough money to the right people, and since Bouygues consistently supports the right-wing in its TV channel, it won the contest. But since the other side had the best project, the other side's plan were gently given to Bouygues.
This blatant case of corruption was solved by a law voted by the right-wing majority in the Parliament. The EU could yell, but France stalled for long enough for an amiable agreement to be found with the indep. architect.
Chirac has tons of corruption affairs behind him, but corruption is so widely spread in France nobody cares that much,sadly."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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Since Bouygues had enough taste to give enough money to the right people
You mean bribery, right? This was awfully vague.
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Surprisingly, the hand of Chirac cannot be found in any of the Credit Lyonnais scandals; they were all manufactured by socialists for the benefit of socialists.Statistical anomaly.
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And particularly if it is a state-owned enterprise engaging in fraud.From now on, when a foreign investor contemplates to take over a US firm (particularly if it is broke), he will have better ask first for a justice clearance, if he does not want to be investigated 7 years later and brought to court 12 years later.
One thing to note is that this really isn't a political issue in the US. We don't have it in for France on this particular issue and and we have no criticism of French business wrt fraud in general (or at least I don't sense it). But we might have a lot of criticism after the dirty laundry has been aired for several years.
One interesting aspect of this is that our country has many fewer state-owned enterprises and nobody from the president down to the jury members is going to cut Credit Lyonnais any slack. It doesn't matter if it was an appendage of the French government and any damages will come from the pocket of the French taxpayer.
I think this is very instructive. Pinault made excellent money on this deal. But fraud can ruin you in the US really fast, if you are caught. Just ask Andersen.I am not sure that this is good for the $.Last edited by DanS; December 4, 2003, 11:41.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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What US are you talking about? France-bashing is always good for a double digit jump in the popularity polls in the United States.Originally posted by DanS
One thing to note is that this really isn't a political issue in the US. We don't have it in for France on this particular issue and and we have no criticism of French business wrt fraud in general (or at least I don't sense it). But we might have a lot of criticism after the dirty laundry has been aired for several years.
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No it isn't. Show me one poll that had any discernible jump when the politicians started to bash France.What US are you talking about? France-bashing is always good for a double digit jump in the popularity polls in the United States.
It's a popular pastime, but of no consequence here.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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