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  • #76
    Originally posted by Mad Bomber


    Women do not tend to vote in the primaries. And most do not vote just based on looks. His policies are not women-friendly either (his stance on abortion for instance is somewhat suspect.) He claimes he is pro-choice, but there seems to be some doubt about that. Ultimately the last thing is that he may be good looking he is not charismatic and will lack voter appeal IMO. The acusations of the illegal killings in vietmam would make him a lame duck if he gets the nomination.
    I think that prochoice is a bit more women freindl but not overly so

    in fact, most people I know who are strongly one side or another are women

    and women seem to be split on the abortion debate (from personal expereince)

    men seem to be mostly I don't care, which corresponds to prochoice

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    • #77
      men are more likely to be pro-life
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      • #78
        but strongly for it?

        I know hardly any males who are prolife

        in general males seem to be 'I don't care' or prochoice

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        • #79
          Uh, I would rethink that one, Jon Miller -- IIRC, there are some men who are outspoken participants or leaders of some of the picketing done at abortion clinics.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #80
            oh I agree

            men are generally trying to lead any cause (that seems to be men's thing)

            I just think that the average male doesn't care

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            • #81
              Mmm, from what I read on Kerry's website, he seems to be somewhat alien to reality. He seriously says that he wants to make congressional-grade health insurance available to everyone in the US, I'm not joking. Also, he seems to be planning to:
              A.Give Iraq to the UN, and at the same time
              B.Keep Iraq under US control.
              Seeing as the rest of the world has said over and over again that they won't take care of our mess for us at all, I think he's being a liiiiittle optimistic there. At least Clark and Dean follow some line of coherent reasoning, whether you agree with them or not.
              'Course, even Kerry makes sense compared to the babble on whitehouse.gov. The economy can be recovered by "reducing the burden of lawsuits," removing pollution regulations, and, he still insists, with tax breaks for the rich. Part of a six-point plan. So I say better Kerry than Bush, but beyond that...eh.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by SlowwHand
                Sharpton is a worthless piece of caca.
                How can you rate him over Kerry, Sava?
                because Kerry is a phony...
                he's a Bush enabler... voted FOR the Iraq resolution... vote FOR the Patriot Act, yet criticizes both...

                plus he's an elitist, IMO

                Despite what the haters think about Sharpton, I think he's at least a straight talker. Plus, having Sharpton be the first African American president would just be hilarious.

                BTW, if Hillary enters the race, I'll cry. I rate her below or equal to Lieberman. I don't want those damn Clintonians getting their claws in power again.

                Elok... right on about Kerry

                but I guess that's why so many conservatives like him
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #83
                  Edwards

                  I'm hoping Edwards catches fire and wins because he is from my state. I think it will be fun to watch Bush beat him in his home state in the general election as he did Gore.

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                  • #84
                    Plus I will say that the democrats screwed up by yanking Gore. He would have stood a better chance to win than any of these guys just based on the fact that at least half of America believes he got shafted last time.

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                    • #85
                      And one more thing. No democrat can win running from the left. The battle is always for the center, which Clinton understood.

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                      • #86
                        Well then SNL shouldn't have nuked him.

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                        • #87
                          As to the question of Religion, the Muslims and Arabs Christians are apparently going to vote against Bush, but probably not if Lieberman is the candidate.

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                          • #88
                            And the repugs will be facing a leadership crisis like the democrats are now in 4 years.


                            Doubtful. The Republicans have great party loyalty and once some governor takes the lead, the party will fall in behind and prevent the kind of infighting the Dems usually have. At most there will be 2 major candidates who every one knows are the major ones.
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                            • #89
                              The Republicans do have a solid "rally round the annointed one" thing going on. I mean, this is the party that managed to rally 'round George W. Bush.

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                              • #90
                                1. Wesley Clark
                                2. John Kerry
                                3. Richard Gephardt
                                4. Hilary Clinton
                                5. Al Gore
                                6. John Edwards
                                7. John McCain
                                8. Bill Clinton
                                9. Al Sharpton
                                10. Chelsea Clinton
                                11. Martin Sheen
                                12. Buckwheat
                                13. Ralph Nader
                                14. Elvis Presley
                                15. Joe Lieberman
                                16. My Grandmother
                                17. Nostradamus
                                18. Howard Dean
                                19. Nomar Garciaparra
                                20. James Carville
                                21. Martin Luther King, Jr.
                                22. Dennis Kucinich
                                23. Alex Trebek
                                24. A Philly Cheesteak
                                25. Carol Mosely Braun
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