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  • #91
    Originally posted by DinoDoc
    I don't know about it all being an act either. But from what I've seen most if not all of them are the same quality, IMO. I don't see any meaningful difference between Ann Coulter and Michael Moore myself.
    There is a difference between Dinesh D'Zousa and Hannity (to take two conservatives), so there are differences. I personally would not compare Franken to Hannity, or D'Zousa to Moore. And Moore, as left-wing as he is, has a bit more style than Coulter-at least he can set up things that are funny and has some showmanship- Coulter just screams, and tries to make jokes which fall flat constantly.

    There is also a different tone to their words- if we take Moore and Coulter: Moore considers his enemies generally ignorant and stupid..certainly not compliments and demeaning, but even in his Oscar speech where he said shame on bush, he never went as far as Copulter does by accusing people of crimes (which Treason and Slander are). So there is a difference in tenor, in style, and thus overall quality among people.
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    • #92
      Like Drake said, try to watch some Congress debates. They are very civil. Much more so than "Prime Minister's Questions" in the British Parliament.


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      • #93
        he never went as far as Copulter does by accusing people of crimes


        I'm pretty sure I remember Moore accusing people of crimes in Stupid White Men. He's no better than Coulter.
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        • #94
          Michael Moore is a ignorant a-hole!
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

            I'm pretty sure I remember Moore accusing people of crimes in Stupid White Men
            Only those who commited them
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Sprayber


              I think you read too much into his post. I'm in the same situation and I dont wish that on this adminstration or any for that matter...
              Don't read to much into my post either. I was just making a sophisticated troll, and you were the only one biting.

              The main thing is that for that day when they were far away from home and probably not too impressed by much display by the army, the President of the United States came to visit them.
              Actually, I agree. If I was in a sh!thole like that for a year, I would appreciated a pat on the back by the Big Boss too. The only problem with his visit was that it was too short and shallow.

              You'll probably laugh
              Your president is actually easy to laugh at. Apart from being such a stereotype, he also has the looks of Alfred E Neuman.

              but then again you have never been in that situation.
              I'm very happy for that, thank you. But my best buddy has spent a total of 3 years on UN missions in Lebanon and Bosnia, so I have gotten enough first-hand reports of what it's like. He has been bombed by Israeli Airforce, machine gunned by Hishbolla and shelled by Serb artillery. He has picked up casualties who had been killed by bullets, direct hits by RPGs and hand grenades. He even had pictures of the latter, showing guts and gore hanging from trees and bushes

              One thing I like with Apolyton OT is that no matter where in the world something big is happening, there are people who can give first-hand reports here. (And MtG will always know enough on the topic to write a long post, no matter what the topic is). Now we will soon have you and Oerdin on site in Iraq who can keep us updated if you get Net access at your base.

              If you thought this post wasn't confused enough already, here's some more... Bush inspecting the frontline in Iraq
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              • #97
                you do know that was photoshopped, right?
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                • #98
                  It's funny anyway - it fits perfectly into the European image of G.W. Bush as an imbecill moron who is not qualified to be the most powerful man in the world.
                  Last edited by Chemical Ollie; November 28, 2003, 18:18.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Like Drake said, try to watch some Congress debates. They are very civil. Much more so than "Prime Minister's Questions" in the British Parliament.
                    Urm, I think that you mean 'question time'

                    The Australian Parliament's question time is a hoot - all the MPs shout abuse at each other.
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                    • Originally posted by GePap
                      Now, this admin has been very partisan more so than Clinton's by far.
                      Huh? I've never heard president Bush say anything negative about any Democrat. When he argues about a bill, he does so on in a very traditional manner. He has objected to the Democrat filibuster of judicial nominees. But not in harsh terms.

                      So, where is this coming from?
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                      • I was not that impressed with Bush's surprise visit to the troops.

                        It was just a real savvy, political, maneuver -- and that remains the truth, even if Bush happens to sincerely care about the troops.
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                        • Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
                          Only those who commited them
                          So, is this the new "innocent until described as guilty by Michael Moore" justice system I've been hearing about? Tell me how that works out for you.
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                          • I saw a FOX News report on Iraqi reaction to Bush's visit. There were people who really liked his visit. There were people who were unimpressed.

                            I read a corresponding AP report. The AP report only reported the negative comments.
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                            • Bush going was excellent.

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                              • Originally posted by cyclotron7


                                So, is this the new "innocent until described as guilty by Michael Moore" justice system I've been hearing about? Tell me how that works out for you.
                                In most of cases, he is quoting mainstream media sources to back up his accusations. My reading of it was too long ago for me to remember all details of his book, and I don't have it readily available here. However, his accusations against Bush and most of his cabinet are well known from other sources.
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