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  • #46
    It was a very brave move, if you consider this:

    Originally posted by Oerdin
    Entire Bush adminstration dies in plane crash.
    (Opinion by a soldier who will soon serve in Iraq, posted in the "News you want to hear the most" thread)

    And this:


    Apart from the flying, it was brave of him to enter the same room as hundreds of armed men, whom he has sent to a god-forgotten place, separated from their families, extended their service duration and made cuts in their benefits.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ned
      Osweld, put yourselves in the shoes of an Iraqi beginning to doubt America's commitment due to all the negative campaigning by Democrats, the constant negative coverage by al Jazeera and other Arab media and the recent move to turn over power to the Iraqi government ASAP. The president's visit has got to be reassuring.
      How so?

      How is Bush flying to iraq to stuff his face with turkey reassuring to someone who's living in a war zone, with poverty, and quite posibly hungry and homeless. I hope you do realise that they don't celebrate Thanksgiving in Iraq. Maybe if bush went there to celebrate an Iraqi festival, it could have some meaning. But as it is, it's just the foreign invaders having a feast.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        This must be one of the few times a secret was actually kept in Washington.
        Just goes to show, they can keep a secret when they want to!
        'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
        G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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        • #49
          Originally posted by The diplomat
          Just goes to show, they can keep a secret when they want to!
          Now I understand that was the reason all along !
          They just wanted to make their secrets public in the past !
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          • #50
            You do realize, Spiffor that adminstrations sometimes will purposely leak things for political gain?
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              You do realize, Spiffor that adminstrations sometimes will purposely leak things for political gain?
              Sometimes, sure.
              But in many occurences, leaks happen because someone in the know (and there can be many of them) has blundered, or because one person purposefully leaks for his individual political gain.

              I think Bush has done it right on this one. It sure reeks of demagogery, but the troops were really needing a morale booster. And it appears on TV Bush sacrificed a day with the family to be close to the soldiers, so it's successful communication.
              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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              • #52
                But in many occurences, leaks happen because someone in the know (and there can be many of them) has blundered, or because one person purposefully leaks for his individual political gain.


                Not in this administration. It is one of the most tight lipped ones in recent memory.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #53
                  Bush's visit dominated the news in Japan this evening. They even put up a picture of Bush lit from behind by an angelic light for a gratuitous amount of time.
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                  • #54
                    Much as I don't like the guy...

                    I do have to say 'Respect'!

                    Now, if only things can be turned around in Iraq...
                    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                    • #55
                      That may take some time, but at the very least I'm very happy that he didn't say we'll pull you out as soon as possible. This is going to take a while to get things going again, and its only going to make things worse if the US hastily pulls out.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #56
                        i'm impressed with this. the only downside to this i can think of is that the rightist pundits like sean hannity will never shut up about it.

                        well, you know, the ones like mr hannity who giggle like little schoolgirls whenever bush is mentioned.

                        definitely gets my respect, though.
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                        • #57
                          Hannity, Limbaugh, or O'reilly shouldn't shut up about it, you would never get one of those coward liberals to Iraq as President. I know it is tough for you lefties when the righties are right and flaunt it.
                          Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

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                          • #58
                            so i'm a lefty now because i don't like hannity? for cryin' out loud, the man has half of his show devoted to people calling in solely to praise him and tell him what a good job he's doing. do we really need that in a talk show? no. give me boortz any day, who's far less of a republican cheerleader.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
                              It was a very brave move, if you consider this:


                              (Opinion by a soldier who will soon serve in Iraq, posted in the "News you want to hear the most" thread)

                              And this:


                              Apart from the flying, it was brave of him to enter the same room as hundreds of armed men, whom he has sent to a god-forgotten place, separated from their families, extended their service duration and made cuts in their benefits.
                              I think you read too much into his post. I'm in the same situation and I dont wish that on this adminstration or any for that matter. It does make a difference when someone like that appears. You may not like the president or the party but when you are over there it makes a difference. Will the feeling last? probably not. The main thing is that for that day when they were far away from home and probably not too impressed by much display by the army, the President of the United States came to visit them. You'll probably laugh but then again you have never been in that situation.
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Defiant
                                Hannity, Limbaugh, or O'reilly shouldn't shut up about it, you would never get one of those coward liberals to Iraq as President. I know it is tough for you lefties when the righties are right and flaunt it.
                                Hillary is there today and tomorrow
                                Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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