I Can't Wait To Go To Iraq

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The best possible situation is a recreation of Britain's 1932 Iraq policy where pro-western leaders are selected and then put in place. These leaders would then write a western style constitution with a western style sepporation of religion and state while we would continue to supply them with economic and military aid so they can defeat the Ba'athists and fundimentalists.

Quite good idea, but isn't that what's already going on, basically?

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The best possible situation is a recreation of Britain's 1932 Iraq policy where pro-western leaders are selected and then put in place. These leaders would then write a western style constitution with a western style sepporation of religion and state while we would continue to supply them with economic and military aid so they can defeat the Ba'athists and fundimentalists.

so iraq can repeat the process again in 40 years? no thanks. reminds me of iran, and we all know how much they love us now.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
Have the occupation forces used Iraqi TV radio and newspapers to give instructions on how to behave at such situations to avoid accidents from confusion?

You know, one of the things I do not know, but wish I did, is what the Iraqi's see on TV in the way of news and information. I know the Iraqi Governing council has pulled the plug for a time on two Arab-language TV networks that are based outside of Iraq. All of these non Iraqi networks seem to be heavily biased against the occuppation. But is there any news service broadcast either by the coalition or by the Iraqi people themselves that give their people access to what really is going on in Iraq?

[Tripledoc]

BTW. According to the Geneva convention it is illegal to meddle in the politics of an occupied state. It only allows for policing to allow normal civilian life to continue as normal.

That would mean that deciding on what news are broadcast, setting up new governments, building a police force is illegal.

This is according to Claire Short, the minister of developent, sacked by Blair just before the war. In fact she thinks that a lot of the attacks are happening because of this continuing illegality by the occupying power.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Ned


You know, one of the things I do not know, but wish I did, is what the Iraqi's see on TV in the way of news and information. I know the Iraqi Governing council has pulled the plug for a time on two Arab-language TV networks that are based outside of Iraq. All of these non Iraqi networks seem to be heavily biased against the occuppation. But is there any news service broadcast either by the coalition or by the Iraqi people themselves that give their people access to what really is going on in Iraq?

i know, lets broadcast FOX News in iraq!

[Ned]

Originally posted by Tripledoc
BTW. According to the Geneva convention it is illegal to meddle in the politics of an occupied state. It only allows for policing to allow normal civilian life to continue as normal.

That would mean that deciding on what news are broadcast, setting up new governments, building a police force is illegal.

This is according to Claire Short, the minister of developent, sacked by Blair just before the war. In fact she thinks that a lot of the attacks are happening because of this continuing illegality by the occupying power.

Tripledoc, AFAIK, we are abiding by the Geneva convention. In what way are we not?

Also, regarding "illegality," we are operating under a UN mandate.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by techumseh


Or maybe you should just cut your losses, lest you get a little more of what the Viet Cong gave you.

The VC gave us their lives, is that what you have in mind?

[techumseh]

Originally posted by Sikander


The VC gave us their lives, is that what you have in mind?

I love you when you're witty, but not when you're half-witty.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ned


Tripledoc, AFAIK, we are abiding by the Geneva convention. In what way are we not?

What I stated. The occupying power cannot setup a new government. Cannot set up a domestic police force.

Also, regarding "illegality," we are operating under a UN mandate.

No.

http://www.afsc.org/iraq/guide/war-timeline.htm

[Bereta_Eder]

I was right about the Iraqi resistance. I simply miscalculated the time frame.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Sikander


The VC gave us their lives, is that what you have in mind?

That's true. A veteran said that the americans killed and killed by the millions untill they were devasted from tireness of the killing. Still, Vietnam beat you.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by paiktis22



That's true. A veteran said that the americans killed and killed by the millions untill they were devasted from tireness of the killing. Still, Vietnam beat you.

Vietnam didn't beat anyone. We were beaten by the Russians and Chinese. Baathists, however, don't have any big brothers backing them this time.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Tripledoc


What I stated. The occupying power cannot setup a new government. Cannot set up a domestic police force.



No.

http://www.afsc.org/iraq/guide/war-timeline.htm

Tripledoc, no one in their right mind would suggest that allowing the Iraqi's to govern themselves by free elections is in violation of International Law. No one in their right mind would agree that we must keep the former regime in power if the removal of that regime was the object of the war. No one in their right mind would agree that we cannot allow new Iraqi police if there was a total collapse of the old order. Somehow, I have the distinct feeling that your interpretation of the Geneva Conventions is way off target.

[Kramerman]

there is ALMOST NO comparison with vietnam. ill leave it at that

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Good idea or not, it's the here and now baby.

This is probably the thing I agree most with.