Suicide.

[Dom Pedro II]

Well, if you feel like sharing, what were you going to do? Obviously it was going to be an outdoor act...

[TCO]

I hope you are not thinking about this, Dom. You seemed like a happy, good-looking young guy. Hope you are not having to deal with it from a family member.

[Whaleboy]

Verres: Have you ever had someone you love die on you?

I consider it a serious issue for all but myself, for me, we all die, it merely seems logical, and frankly desireable to me to resolve that question in my own manner, not in a way that would cause me excessive pain, and suffering that would amplify any pain felt by others. Call it pre-emptive if you will.

None of us can live without people (whether we care to admit it or not) yet accept the fact that life is a ***** and we will lose those we care for.

I fully accept that as an inevitable part of life. For someone who takes comfort in non-permanance, you should know that I understand it almost to the point of preoccupation on a philosophical level (sic idealism).

You say petty insecurities and narcissism? I concur. *Whaleboy bites another delicious pickled onion*.

[Dom Pedro II]

Well, actually, I didn't really want to get into it... but I'm already on the other side of thinking about it. Spent a week in the hospital a few weeks ago. Not proud of it, but that's the situation.

[SlowwHand]

I've known two people that committed suicide.
It's not the answer, and it's unfair to those who love you that have to live with it.

[Datajack Franit]

I planned to either jump off the bridge or standing on the rail line and waiting for the night cargo- of course now I luckily realize there are so many things world has to offer me, and so many persons I want to step on- ahem no, really, it's a matter of finding your role in life

[Verres]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
Verres: Have you ever had someone you love die on you?

I consider it a serious issue for all but myself, for me, we all die, it merely seems logical, and frankly desireable to me to resolve that question in my own manner, not in a way that would cause me excessive pain, and suffering that would amplify any pain felt by others. Call it pre-emptive if you will.



I fully accept that as an inevitable part of life. For someone who takes comfort in non-permanance, you should know that I understand it almost to the point of preoccupation on a philosophical level (sic idealism).

You say petty insecurities and narcissism? I concur. *Whaleboy bites another delicious pickled onion*.

Yes Whaleboy, I have. Her death had the effect of making me look at my own life and realise what i was becoming. Dont assume me to be so naive that i am unable to realise the harm losing someone you love can do; not telling you about it doesnt mean I wasnt hurt.

[Dom Pedro II]

And that's exactly the reason why I didn't succeed, or haven't tried before or since...

[Whaleboy]

Surely whether or not it is the answer depends on the question?

[Dom Pedro II]

Datajack, I'm glad you've found reason to live.

[Ming]

In most cases... A permanent solution to a temporary problem...

[TCO]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
Well, actually, I didn't really want to get into it... but I'm already on the other side of thinking about it. Spent a week in the hospital a few weeks ago. Not proud of it, but that's the situation.

duuuude. Don't be doing **** like that. I will play for your chow and brews at the next Poly meet. Just don't be messing with crap like that.

[Whaleboy]

Yes Whaleboy, I have. Her death had the effect of making me look at my own life and realise what i was becoming. Dont assume me to be so naive that i am unable to realise the harm losing someone you love can do; not telling you about it doesnt mean I wasnt hurt.

I am well aware of the harm that losing someone can do, I am very well aware the harm it can do when you feel a sense of responsibility for that death. Do not assume I am making the assumption that you are naive merely because I ask you a question whose response would contribute to such a critical analysis. Connotations are notoriously hard to express and receive accurately through hastily written text, as a result, I try to rarely assume they are there, unless clearly deliberate. If that appeared the case, it was not.

Back on topic. When ones reasons for outweigh the reasons against for taking a particular action, that action becomes logical. The means for defining that is down to the individual, and it is not up to outside individuals to deride that logic and personal disposition, merely because it disagrees with their own. That is not how communication works. Instead, one must attempt to understand the logic of the beholder, and either work within that to change their views or use a two-way discourse to interact with their own (shared assumptions to expose faulty reasoning). You will have little success changing someones mind when it is made up, unless (like in most suicides I presume), the action has not been thought out. As you know, I like to think that the latter is not the case, otherwise it would fluctuate from day to day.

[Dom Pedro II]

Interesting story... my action caused one of my former friends to realize that he'd made a huge mistake in abandoning the group of people who really cared about him. And he's been trying to make amends since then.

[TCO]

Dude...that is kinda wierd. You did this to guilt trip your friend into hanging out more?

Now if you had done this, to get some brews and a Poly party funded by GP...that would be...still wierd. But anyway, you are a big bufff guy. Don't do **** like that. Just go squash seomthing.