New explosions in Istanbul!

[MikeH]

Not sure you meant it but why only condolences to the Turkish victims not the others?

[Bereta_Eder]

My sentiments lie primarely with the Turkish victims not with HSBC or the British Consulate. After that all loss of human life is tragic.

[C0ckney]

that's very big hearted of you...

[Pekka]

This is bad.. This will have effects on tourism as well, with the tragedy of victims. Let's hope they catch the bastards and bring them justice.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by paiktis22
My sentiments lie primarely with the Turkish victims not with HSBC or the British Consulate. After that all loss of human life is tragic.

Why does it make a difference?

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by MikeH


Why does it make a difference?

Because HSBC and the British Consulate represent concrete interests. The Turkish people themselves represent none and have in fact strived as best as they could to not throw oil in the machines of terrorism.

[MikeH]

Ah. So if British people who work in a bank get bombed they deserved it?

Nice.

[Bereta_Eder]

Many would deserve many things if there was indeed justice for everyone. If they deserved it or not, of course noone deserves getting killed.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by C0ckney
paki, don't troll this you bell end.

BTW just noticed that. In the UK this is a slur if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for the honour.

[lord of the mark]

Condolences to all the victims of terrorism.

Note well, an attack on foreign interests in Turkey is also an attack on Turkey. The AQ strategy seems to be to isolate the muslim world from the West - with its attacks in Bali, Jakarta, Riyadh, and Istanbul (and attacks in Iraq on the UN, Red Cross, Italians, and pro-Coalition Iraqis). This would weaken moderate, pro-Western muslims.

[Winston]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Thanks for the honour.

I'm afraid you wouldn't know honour if it bit you in the middle finger you're so busy pointing at some of the victims.

[Bereta_Eder]

Yes my dear Wiston of course. You might try to despose of your despise of me and your personal attacks of me for this thread though? It's the least you can do. Don't forget they really characterize you, not me.

[Ancyrean]

It has now been confirmed that the British Consul General is among the dead! The footage from the blast scenes are gruesome Cliche or not, what I see once more on the screen is terror has no bounds or limits, knows no nationality, spares no soul...My condolences to all the victims, from far away here...

In a sweep, here's what I could get from the developments:

Death toll now 26, wounded 450! Bush, Blair, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan strongly condemn the attacks, EU parliament holds a moment of silence for all who lost their lives in the attacks...Turkish and British governments exchange condolences...The same Turkish fringe fundamentalist group as well as al qaida claim responsibility....Turkish authorities once more dismiss the capability of that local group is adequate for such attacks...

I agree with your overall sentiment, but there is a difference in your analogy. When the IRA set off such bombs in Britian, they were targeting the British; whoever is doing this is clearly targetting foreigners. I've always felt safe in Turkey, but I've never been as circumspect about being a foreigner here as I am right now.

I catch the drift here, but I believe the aim was not to scare foreigners away from Turkey, but to scare Turkey from "foreigners", to make Turkey regret its staunch position as an ally of the West, a balanced friend of Israel and its frontal position in the war on terror. I believe, at this juncture, the perpetrators aimed more to "teach the Turks a lesson", and in a way also demonstrating their antagonism towards the West. Hence the aiming of Western (British, in this instance) assets without any regard for the lives of "fellow Muslims".

What the terrorist scum can't figure out is that this is under no circumstance happen. Turkish people do not feel the slightest sympathy towards al-qaida, osama bin laden or any associated sh!thead, and if I know the country I grew up in, this kind of an outrage will not inspire any kind of affection for these people

[The diplomat]

I don't understand pacifism. How can anyone still be a pacifist after these kind of terrorist attacks?

[Nubclear]

Because war is probably why these attacks happend in the first place.
Violence promotes violence. Continue the cycle and it never ends, obviously.