Bush grants interview to the Sun

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Forgive me as I haven't read the entire thread but what's with the hand wringing about the "sportsmanship" of sinking a military ship during a time of war?

The 'war', as it is so confusedly called, was not a war at the time, when the Brits sank the Belgrano. There were peace negotians and in order that Thatcher can gain some popularity the sinking of the Belgrano is done so as to upset the fact that the Junta were willing to fold.
The Sun, then editorilized by Rupert Murdoch, puts on a headline that says 'GOTCHA!' on the nations's biggest Tabloid, and people explode in nationalist favour. Then the Argentinian Junta proceed to sink four British ships killing the lives of many service men.

All this was designed so that Thatcher could win the 83 elections.

[Guynemer]

How in high holy **** did my thread about the President of the United States granting an interview to a British titty tabloid turn into a debate on the Falklands?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Guynemer
How in high holy **** did my thread about the President of the United States granting an interview to a British titty tabloid turn into a debate on the Falklands?

Through hard work and great skill apparently.

[Guynemer]

Bastards.

Whatever happened to good old-fashioned laziness?

[Dauphin]

Floyd, I would agree with you if the Sun was running the headline to celebrate a victory but given the nature of the Sun and what I've heard about people's reactions to the story it was more likely doing it to celebrate the killing of Argies. You'd have to read the article yourself to understand the context of the headline.

[David Floyd]

Well, I think it was more to celebrate the sinking of an Argie ship more so than Argie sailors, as that makes more sense, but you're right, I haven't read the article.

[Dauphin]

Got it :

The Royal Navy had the Argies on their knees last night after a devastating double punch.

Wallop: They torpedoed the 14,000 ton Argentine Cruiser General Belgrano and left it a useless wreck.
Wallop: Task Force helicopters sank one Argentine patrol boat and severely damaged another.

The Belgrano which survived the Pearl Harbour attacks when it belonged to the US Navy had been asking for trouble all day. The Cruiser, second largest in the Argy fleet had been skirting the 200 mile war zone that Britain had set up around the Falkland Islands.

With its 15 six-inch guns our Navy high command were certain that it would have played a major part in any battle to retain the Falklands. But the Belgrano and her 1,000 crew needn't worry about the war for some time now. For the nuclear submarine Conqueror let fly with two torpedoes.

[David Floyd]

Sounds more as if it is celebrating the sinking of the ship, not the drowning of the crew. It mentions the crew once, and the ship numerous times.

[Tripledoc]

The article even admits that the Belgrano only 'skirted' the exclusion zone. It was actually sailing away. It was not 'asking for trouble' as the article claims.

[David Floyd]

Well let's see, it was an Argentine ship of war that put to sea during war time. In or out of an "exclusion zone" not mandated by international law, that sounds like asking for trouble to me.

[St Leo]

"The easiest way to get shot is to carry fifteen six-inch guns."
- Atticus Finch, To Sink a Mockingbird

^-^

[JCG]

The Falklands War was stupid and unnecessary just because it gave the British an excuse to hang onto the Falklands (whereas they could have been gained through negotiation under a much weaker British government later on, for example...now, they'll hang onto them for God knows how long). Ridiculous of the Junta to believe that they could ever have won such a conflict.

And well, the Belgrano deal is probably in bad taste (both the attack happening when it did and the headline), and certainly all loss of life should be lamented, but it was to be expected during wartime, since it is almost always so lawless and hellish (despite all attempts at sanitizing it, which is very unfortunate IMHO)....

[Imran Siddiqui]

What a thread jack! Perhaps Guy should start a thread on the Belgrano so that maybe a discussion about Bush interviewing with the Sun may break out .

[Timexwatch]

Imran-

While we're pointlessly arguing about the sinking of ships in war, why don't dredge up the U.S.S. Liberty for ****s and giggles.

[Sikander]

Ack, I can't read anymore of this crap! Time to write some. It's ok to celebrate military victories, especially when they lead to the overthrow of a murderous military junta and the restoration of democracy, as was the case in Argentina. I don't even care that you disagree.