Who was the better general?
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Patton or Rommel?
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I'm voting Patton, simply because his personality was so much more colorful, but both were truly brilliant strategists/tacticians, and I'd be hard pressed to pick one over the other."Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
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Patton was better because he won. But you can't help but have fondness for Rommel's style.
It's about like Hannibal. Amazing general, but not the best because he didn't follow up his victories by sacking Rome and because he ended up being beaten. Grant gets very high marks because he did what it took to win, even if his MO was rather brutish.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Rommel had far better dress sense. But, then again, Patton won."Paul Hanson, you should give Gibraltar back to the Spanish" - Paiktis, dramatically over-estimating my influence in diplomatic circles.
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I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Rommel not been so severely handicapped by his leadership/supplies."Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
"The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
"It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain
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You're too hard on the man, Dan. Look what he did to the English again and again with a handful of Germans and a mob of Italians! Give him half of what Patton had in material, air support, and supply and Egypt would have been his!
Also, nobody could have defended europe, Germany was already beaten by the Rooskies and the bombing. The allies had almost endless force which nothing could have competed with. This was Hitlers fault. If Patton was a German, he would have lost too, because Germany had no chance against the power of allied industry, yes?
His attack into France in '40....incredible! What a guy.Long time member @ Apolyton
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Patton took a huge advantage in men, material, supplies, air power, tanks, etc and was able to win.
Rommell had the reverse of that and was able to come damn close.
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"Well, his opponents were English. Not the Navy, either."
If you had said 'French', as in '40, I'd have agreed, but the English? I don't see a heck of alot of difference between English and Americans, imo. English troops are tough SOBs!Long time member @ Apolyton
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