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  • #31
    Originally posted by axi
    Rommel.

    You're forgetting the Atlantic Wall. Hitler had it all wrong, until Rommel took charge of it and started fixing it up. Fortunately he did not have enough time to make his defenses strong enough.
    But he insisted in putting them all in the wrong place (most in the Pas de Calais, and all beach obstacles intended for a high tide landing.
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    • #32
      The wisdom of the Apolytoners has you by the short hairs there Mike, by 16 to 7 at current count, more than 2-1. Ha. Also, he was a damn good dog...

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      • #33
        But Patton wanted to rearm the Germans and go after the Commies! He was BRILLIANT!

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        • #34
          "But Patton wanted to rearm the Germans and go after the Commies! He was BRILLIANT!"

          This is definately a plus for Patton. ****ing right.

          Still, gotta go w/ Rommel, who took Tobruk after all.
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          • #35
            Patton. He turned around the American effort in North Africa. He took time to study his enemy and anticipate their moves. He motivated his troops to achieve extraordinary feats. Just his name pinned down two German divisions during D-day. The Germans thought he was a better General than Rommel.
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            • #36
              Just his name pinned down two German divisions during D-day. The Germans thought he was a better General than Rommel.
              Actually, it pinned down an entire army (I believe the 7th), plus panzer reserves.

              As for which one was better? Well, in France, Patton was in a position where he couldn't really lose, and much of Rommel's success can rightly be attributed to talented subordinates. Patton also had some talented subordinates, most notably, at one point, Omar Bradley.

              I really don't think you can say that either one is individually responsible for the large amounts of success they both enjoyed, at various times.
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              • #37
                Stonewall Jackson

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Lancer
                  The wisdom of the Apolytoners
                  Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Berzerker
                    Stonewall Jackson
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                    • #40
                      Let their powers combine to form Rattonpommel, the world's greatest general!
                      Last edited by Boris Godunov; November 13, 2003, 13:07.
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                      • #41
                        Guderian could kick Rattonpommel's ass.
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                        • #42
                          This is a no-brainer, Rommel was by far the best general on the western front.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by atawa
                            This is a no-brainer, Rommel was by far the best general on the western front.
                            And from looking at the votes... a majority of people agree
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                            • #44
                              It just proves they have no brains.
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                              • #45
                                Okay, who was the German general that took on 2 Russian armies early on in WWI defeating them both and instigating the Russian Revolution and Russia's expedited withdrawal from the war?

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