Everything That Has A Beginning Has An End: Matrix Spoiler Thread.

[Provost Harrison]

No, but The One is used to repopulate Zion. I think the Merovingian is a program that corrupted in a similar way to Smith many an aeon ago - although not quite having the same effect.

[Bereta_Eder]

true. but repopulate zion and then? what happens to him?
also based to the theory i mentioned, he choose to save himslef and his "trinity" and let zion fry. is he used to repopulate zion if he chosen that? (im asking dont know)

remember persephone said she wanted to feel what she and the frenchman felt originally when she asked neo to kiss her like if she was trinity. also the awesome powers of the mergovian and I think (im not sure about this) the frenchman telling neo that he is not the only one of his kind?

[Timexwatch]

If the Mergovian is the old Neo, where's the rest of him (keep in mind I haven't seen it yet)?

[Bereta_Eder]

rest of him?

[Provost Harrison]

Well Neo is a human, and thus has a body. The Merovingian does not...

Remember the speech by The Architect in Releaded - the function of the one is to return to the source where the information gathered will be used to restart the matrix, and The One then selects so many people to repopulate Zion...but Revolutions actually maintained the loop yet broke the status quo - so in the end The Oracle got what she wanted...harmony.

[Sandman]

The Merovingian is not a previous One. The Oracle explains quite clearly that he is a program, like her.

[Sandman]

I think part of the problem was the loose narrative structure. The Matrix had an extremely tight and cohesive plot, with the vast majority of the film being told from the point of view of Trinity, Morpheus and Neo.

The plots of the sequels created too many side-characters, locations, plots, relationships and so on. They were unable to wrap them up even in two movies, a computer game, and a load of animated shorts. The need to jump between a whole horde of characters undermined the relentless pace of the film.

[Bereta_Eder]

maybe the merogivian has a body? maybe after he is used as the one the machines can let him be a program in the matrix without a body? rememebr the choice the architect has goiven to all the ones is to save themselves and trinity IIRC

I dont remember the oracle explaining he is a program

i think the 3 matrix successfully superceded the weaknes of Neo (being all powerfull) by transporting the plot to the real world which tuned out to be more fantastic than the matrix! IMO But i agree than the 1 matrix was the one.

[Sandman]

I dont remember the oracle explaining he is a program

She says something along the lines of 'he is a very dangerous program, one of the oldest of us'.

[Bereta_Eder]

Hmm I see.

[player1]

I think that in order to undstand the end of 3rd Matrix, it's very importatnt to remember the Architect dialoge from 2nd movie.

[Provost Harrison]

Well I remember the Architect's discussion and even managed to get hold of a transcript of it and make sense out of his rather verbose script. So I had no problems understanding what was going on in the film, but I would have liked to have seen more going on within The Matrix. It did seem to lack a certain Jenny Sayqua that the first two had nonetheless.

[Provost Harrison]

Here it is, in fact...

Architect: Hello Neo

Neo: Who are you?

Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix. I have been waiting for you. You have many questions and although the process has altered your consciousness you remain irrevocably human, ergo some of my answers you will understand and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question maybe the most pertinent you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

Neo: Why am I here?

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden deciduously avoided it is not unexpected and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexcerably here.

Neo: You haven’t answered my question.

Architect: Quite right. Interesting, that was quicker then the others.

Neo: Others? (What others? How many? Answer me)

Architect: The Matrix is older then you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next. In which case this is the sixth version.

Neo: Then there are only two possible explanations, either no one told me, or no one knows.

Architect: Precisely, as you are undoubtedly gathering the anomaly is systemic. Creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

Neo: Choice, the problem is choice.

Architect: The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect; it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being. Thus, I redesigned it, Based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However I was again frustrated my failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another, and intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo: The Oracle

Architect: Please, as I was saying she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99 percent of all test subjects accepted the program as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at an unconscious level. While this answered function it was obviously fundamentally flawed thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly. That if left unchecked might threaten the system itself, ergo those that refuse the program while the minority if unchecked would cause an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo: This is about Zion

Architect: You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo: Bull

Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it. And we have become exceedingly efficient at it. The function of the One is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry reinserting the prime program after which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix. Which, coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo: You won’t let it happen, you can’t. You need human beings to survive.

Architect: There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However the relevant issue is whether you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world. It is interesting reading your reactions. Your 5 predecessors were by design based on a similar predication a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a very general way your experience is far more specific, Vis a vie love.

Neo: Trinity

Architect: Apropo, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.

Neo: No

Architect: Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed and the anomaly revealed as both beginning and end. There are two doors, the door to your right leads to the source and the salvation of Zion, the door to your left leads back to the matrix to her and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know we you are going to do don’t we? Already I can see the chain reaction the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple and obvious truth, she is going to die and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness.

Neo: If I were you, I would hope that we don’t meet again.

Architect: We won’t.

[laurentius]

What/Who is Sati?

[Gatekeeper]

I thought the third installment was OK. That said, I think it's fine that the machines and humanity have found a tentative peace. Now the two species can get their arses to work cleaning up a ruined Earth! (I thought the brief glimpse Trinity had of a clear, blue sky with a sliver of the Moon visible was a highlight of Revolutions.)

Gatekeeper