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  • #76
    The German army had troops but morale was well and truly broken.
    Oh that's quite right, but I think a point can be made that if the war against the Western Allies not only ended, but the Allies began actively supporting Germany against the Soviet Union, morale would have improved.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Serb


      To your knowledge Soviet airforces and anti-aircraft defences were far far away from Iraqis.

      You take American superiority in skies in 1945 for granted. I dare to say that it's a bullsh!t claim.

      Have a nice day.


      yeah right

      and the American air force could have been increased exponentially anyway
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      • #78
        I guess I'm not getting any clarification on that one. Oh well, it didn't make much sense anyway.
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        • #79
          Hey, even iff the yanks had air superiority, they wouldn't be able to get that superiority into the urals and the russians actualy did have vast amounts of reinforcements to call on, and while if in this senario the krauts were brought back into the war and reequiped bbe thhe allies, the moral boost would not bbe to big, and would soon wear away, as, they would hhave to go back into russia, then get pushed all the way out to france, ending central european civilization as we knew it
          why no revolution :(

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Commie Chocobo
            Hey, even iff the yanks had air superiority, they wouldn't be able to get that superiority into the urals and the russians actualy did have vast amounts of reinforcements to call on, and while if in this senario the krauts were brought back into the war and reequiped bbe thhe allies, the moral boost would not bbe to big, and would soon wear away, as, they would hhave to go back into russia, then get pushed all the way out to france, ending central european civilization as we knew it
            The problem, CC, is not that the American Air Force could not reach the Urals,it is that the Russians could not touch America.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by David Floyd


              Why would that be realistic?
              hey, it was your idea about such match, not my, remeber?
              Oh dear, don't make me pull out actual figures and statistics, and production numbers, and numbers of reserve pilots, etc., again, Serb.
              Again? What do you mean "again"?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ned


                The problem, CC, is not that the American Air Force could not reach the Urals,it is that the Russians could not touch America.
                Ned, we were talking about war in Europe in 1945. David believe that "in a conventional war in Europe in May of 1945, the Western Allies would have absolutely destroyed the Red Army", I believe in exactly the opposite.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Ted Striker




                  yeah right

                  and the American air force could have been increased exponentially anyway
                  And your country would be today a part of mighty Soviet Empire, anyway.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by David Floyd


                    Oh that's quite right, but I think a point can be made that if the war against the Western Allies not only ended, but the Allies began actively supporting Germany against the Soviet Union, morale would have improved.
                    Where? Perhaps in USA or in US Army, where lived/served a lot of Jews? I guess Jews would have been just happy to ally with Nazi in war vs. Soviets.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Serb

                      Ned, we were talking about war in Europe in 1945. David believe that "in a conventional war in Europe in May of 1945, the Western Allies would have absolutely destroyed the Red Army", I believe in exactly the opposite.
                      I think the Russians could have pushed the US off the continent if they attacked in the summer of '45, but then it would have had one hell of a problem as it would face air superiority near England that it could not hope to overcome. As well, its supply lines would have stretched all the way back to the Urals and would have been vulnerable to American Air Power. It would only be a matter of time until America re-invaded and pushed the Russians back, not because America could match Russian manpower, but because Russia could not hope to resupply its army in face of American air supremacy.

                      Besides, the Russians would have had a collapsed Germany behind its front lines. I am willing to bet that the German Army would have fought the Russians as best it could guerilla-fashion as the Russians would have been viewed as brutal occuppiers. This would have severely complicated Russia's supply problem.
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