Tweet
When he said "School" he meant "College" or "Uni", pekka. 
-
Azazel, it's about 10 semesters here for MD (two semesters in one year). That's minimum in my area, some are shorter, but it's pretty much how fast you advance, VERY often people get their degrees after 6+ years. Also for example my actual studies are closer to 5 years but there is a thesis I need to do.. and that takes a bit more time.In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
-
Az, I realized that. And I pointed out, that our 'school' is longer, the school before college/Uni. So it's quite understandable why we have shorter Uni, no? And it's the same credits we have to get there too, it's just some people who manage to do it in time. I guess if I wanted, I could do this whole thing in one year, but I can't.In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
-
Yeah it's a bit odd. But there are several factors, eg unis are not school-like - students have to organise themselves. And many students have jobs besides studying. And some studies are hopelessly overcrowded.Originally posted by Azazel
10-15 simesters?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People get Ph.Ds over here for such a period of time.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
-
Same here, except we have kindergarten in addition for 4/5 year olds. A bachelor's degree is 8 semesters, which is referred to as an undergraduate degree. There are some few programs where you can get a bachelors + masters in 10 semesters, but normally it's at least 12.DanS, and how did you come to this conclusion? I'd like to point out, that in many countries we go to school longer before college. For example here it is 12 years. And THEN it's college. The level is naturally about the same, so it's not like we need to learn how to read for 12 years.
In comparison to Roland's 10 semesters for a masters law degree, an American attorney for his bachelors law degree (LL.B) will have 8 semesters for his undergraduate degree plus 6 semesters for law school, or 14 semesters total.
Don't get me started on how much schooling American medical doctors have to take...
Add to all of this is the fact that a much higher percentage of Americans go to college/university than in most other countries.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
-
DanS, We don't actually count kindergarten. You don't do 12 years starting from the age of 7. Your high school ends a year before that. That means you'll be 19 when you finish this period.
In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
-
I'm confused. We have 12 years before college as well (not including kindergarten). How is yours different then?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
-
And here it has very little to do even with semesters or years, it's how fast you advance. Minimum is usually 4 to 5 years, normal graduation time is after 6 years. To Bachelors degree you'll be going for about.. 120 credits, equaling about 3+ years. So that would be even more than in there. These are not equivalent, the semesters or the credit system like I said. The actual degrees however are pretty much the same. And the time you complete them, you have spent about the same time. Here the average grad with MD is about 26, and in some areas it's 27, and if you are med student, it's more.In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
-
DanS, and your school starts at the age of 7? It's not he same anyway. We go further in the 'high school' level.In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
-
Well I don't know about med, but you'll have to compare the entire system. In most (or all?) US states you can do the bar exam shortly after law school. In Austria, it requires 5 years of legal practice in addition to your master's degree, and the bar exam, until you can get your full bar registration.Originally posted by DanS
In comparison to Roland's 10 semesters for a masters law degree, an American attorney for his bachelors law degree (LL.B) will have 8 semesters for his undergraduate degree plus 6 semesters for law school, or 14 semesters total.
Don't get me started on how much schooling American medical doctors have to take...
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
-
Our school starts at age 4 or 5 with kindergarten. First grade is age 5 or 6. 12th grade is age 17 or 18.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
-
to do a physics PHD, you are going to do on average 20 semesters of work (8 for a bachelors, and ~11 for a PHD)
at some schools Bachelors are 10, and some PHDs are over 12
a long time, I should only have ~8 left
Jon MillerJon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.Comment
-
I think the only difference is that we don't count kindergarten as "school".“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
-
DanS, Oh so yes but you count it like that.. We start counting from the age of 7. Before that we have 'pre-school' don't know the proper term, but this is what you are most likely doing also. We just start counting school from the age of 7, but we go to the 'pre-school' before that (ages 5, 6)..In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
-
DanS
it is true that a Euro Highschool student is better prepared than an American one, on average
Jon MillerJon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.Comment
Comment