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  • #61
    All the Universities were I live have required courses that you have to take to get a degree. What are you talking about? The school you went to did not have any required courses??
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    • #62
      I don't think it's possible to have everyone come out of 4 yrs of college without "glaring gaps" in their education.

      I was into History, Political Science (heh), Civ and Beer. My girlfriend was into Math & Computers, with occasional forays into History, Civ and Beer.

      Even if I had avoided Civ and Beer, I still think I'd be somewhat lacking in areas like Mathematics/Physics, Chemistry (I hate chem, for no apparent reason), etc. I don't really enjoy those topics. My gf's did well in things she wished to do well in, but I doubt that even she could have managed to be well-versed in all subjects in 4 years.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Pekka
        No doctor. Masters Degree, yes? We consider Bachelors Degree a shameful failure .

        Just kidding with the failure thing. Besides after that I'd be like almost maybe 3 years away from that doctor .
        didn't you just enroll? how the hell can you go straight to master's without having your batchelor's?
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #64
          Azazel, I'll be compliting my BC in.. 3 years at most. Yes I'm studying a lot. And after that some more courses and then I'll do my thesis, and this should be completed in 5 years tops. But I'm already chosen for MD program, so I don't have to worry about the little things.
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          • #65
            I'm not sure what the topic is. If you have no required courses at all, what degree will you get?
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Azazel


              didn't you just enroll? how the hell can you go straight to master's without having your batchelor's?
              I believe Oxford/Cambridge gives its graduates a masters degree rather than a bachelors.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                I'm not sure what the topic is. If you have no required courses at all, what degree will you get?
                This puzzled me, as well.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • #68
                  I assume some liberal arts bachelor, but isn't that college rather than uni? Always found that US system confusing.
                  “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                  • #69
                    Yep. Batchelor's majors minors...

                    We don't have majors and minors in my uni.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #70
                      Well we have such combined studies in some areas. Mostly for academic training of teachers - which barely exists in the US, supposedly.

                      Is Israel's system more along the european university model?
                      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                      • #71
                        Yes, Academic training of teachers, and Economics+management, and Chemistry+Material Engineering ( In such a case, the person gets two degrees. ), but those are very rigid, relatively. It's not that you can have a degree in Japanese History and Physics, as the american system would imply.
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                          I assume some liberal arts bachelor, but isn't that college rather than uni? Always found that US system confusing.
                          you have been exposed to americans for a few years now (on apolyton if no where else)

                          you would think that you would have figured it out by now

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                          • #73
                            I always thought that a core curriculum was important, but maybe that's because that's what I went through for my BA. 4 semesters in English, 4 semesters in Religion, 4 in Philosophy, and 4 in math and sciences. You had at least some latitude on the actual courses, however. It didn't seem like too much of a hassle, even if some were slightly wasteful of my time.

                            There are some classes that I think need to be taught in order to live in the modern world, but perhaps they should be taught in high school. These are classes such as personal finance (beyond home economics that are taught in junior high school).
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                            • #74
                              What AS means, I think, is a set of courses that everyone would *have* to take, regardless of which undergraduate degree they were pursuing. So I, the History major and my girlfriend, the Math & CompSci double major, would both have to take "Ethics" and "People Skills" (to use Adam Smith's examples).

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                              • #75
                                Well our law study is about 85 % required courses in the frist 6 semesters (which would be about a bachelor), there's more leeway in the last 2 semesters (about 50-70 %). But that one would be highly "required" in the US too AFAIK; at least bar accreditation requires covering the key subjects IIRC.
                                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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