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**SlowwHand** · October 10, 2003, 17:24

There is little difference between Castro and Hussein.

**Garth Vader** · October 10, 2003, 17:39

Yeah the US can't catch or kill either of them

**Chemical Ollie** · October 10, 2003, 17:45

Castro

Bush

**SlowwHand** · October 10, 2003, 17:48

They can, now. Before, assassination was frowned upon.

**MichaeltheGreat** · October 10, 2003, 18:07

Originally posted by SlowwHand
There is little difference between Castro and Hussein.

Actually, there's a hell of a lot of differences, but for a lot of Americans and their sophisticated sence of furrin' police-y, they just might not be able to see them, or care to. After all, when the whole 3rd world is yours to **** with for amusement, who cares?

**laurentius** · October 10, 2003, 18:12

Castro is awesome leader and personality. Theres some dark sides of his cuba too but in generally it's far more humane/good that america is to its citizens

**mrmitchell** · October 10, 2003, 18:23

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Oh yes, you've proved that the communsit isystem is all wrong. So, uhm,

what about all them Mexicans running through the Sonora desert dying of dehydration? What about all them Haitians piling onto makeshift boats . . . ah **** it. People trying to go to a richer country is only an indictment when the poor country is communist, right? If it's a capitalist country, then it doesn't really count.

When did I prove Communism wrong? I said that Cubans didn't love Castro like Ag said.

Sheesh

**Dr Strangelove** · October 10, 2003, 18:32

You want to make it easier for dissident Cubans to reach the US? Does anyone here remember the boat people fiasco a couple of decades back? God knows, this time he'll probably pack the boats with al-Queda wannabes with phony papers.

**SlowwHand** · October 10, 2003, 18:33

Now Michael, don't go getting your panties in a wad.
I didn't say anything about Fox.
My point, which I stand behind, is Hussein and Castro are both murderous bastards.

**GePap** · October 10, 2003, 19:05

"Were is gepap"?

Gainfully employed and exploited by the Council of the City of New York, that is where.

Oh, and regardless of the vicious lies kropotkin is spreading, I am not currently in a Miami prison....

This "announcement" is , well, meaningless. Make it easier for dissidents to leave? Anyone here think castro has a problem with that? As for making it harder for Americans to travel there..first, anyone who wants will still make it through Mexico, and the Cubans don;t stamp passports, so maybe it will deter a small amount of people. All in all, a vote-pandering stunt.

As for Castro..the average Cuban probalby does not love him..but most of them have lived their entire lives under him, and they would NOT back a coup or so: the communist party still does have substantial (htough not majority) support. When he dies, or decides to give up power due to old age (the former is more likely, but the later could always happen), i am sure there will be a lot of grief outpouring in cuba, if only becuase he has been a symbol of the country for 40 years. I don;t think communist party rule will outlast him though. Elections will have to follow.

**rev** · October 10, 2003, 21:54

It's good to see that Bush, Powell, and co. are outlining some ideas for what to do when Castro's gone -- hopefully they've learned their lessons (re: not planning for the aftermath) from Iraq.

However, it's tiresome to see them working the same half-century-old methods of trying to remove Castro from power. All the embargos and travel restrictions have done is to give Fidel even more authority with the Cubans, who are subject to further poverty and lack of improvements in quality of life.

Progress is a fatal enemy of communism and dictatorships. Sure, we can let Cuba remain in its never-ending 1950s lifestyle, or we can let our culture and our technology change Cuba and present itself as a threat to Castro.

**DinoDoc** · October 10, 2003, 22:01

Originally posted by Agathon
Anyway, if there were free elections he'd still win. The Cubans love him.

Is that why he put so many road blocks in front of the Varela Project? Let's not forget the various political dissidents he's thrown in jail for little more than expressing thier opinion.

**Odin** · October 10, 2003, 22:38

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Is that why he put so many road blocks in front of the Varela Project? Let's not forget the various political dissidents he's thrown in jail for little more than expressing thier opinion.

If Cuba allowed "free" elections the US would give tons of mony to the rightist parties and let the Cuban-American terrorists beat up Castro supporters, basically Contra episode 2.

The only reason there are travel restrictions is that the corporate elite don't want people discovering that the propaganda they are feeding people is BS. Most of those "political dissidents" are probably conected to the Cuban-American terrorists in Miami.

**DinoDoc** · October 10, 2003, 22:44

Originally posted by Odin
If Cuba allowed "free" elections the US would give tons of mony to the rightist parties and let the Cuban-American terrorists beat up Castro supporters, basically Contra episode 2.

Like I said. Commies want a dictatorship because they are afraid of democracy.

**Odin** · October 10, 2003, 23:00

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Like I said. Commies want a dictatorship because they are afraid of democracy.

You call voter intimidation democracy?

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