Has the Bush administration signaled the end of conservatism?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Kidicious
You tell me why I shouldn't.

Yeah... right... all conservatives are greedy, selfish, and evil people...

And only liberals are generous, loving, and kind people...



Besides taxes... what percent of your earnings (assuming you aren't still living at home with your parents footing the bill) do you give to charities... How much of your time do you volunteer for charitable organizations Mr. Liberal...

Many call me a conservative... and I bet I give more money and time to charity than you do.

So actually pratice what you post instead of just making statement that aren't even close to reality.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by skywalker


bad troll, stupid post

You get the prize for making the most accurate post so far.

[Kropotkin]

Why should this be the end of conservatism? Bush is doing exacly the right thing to stop liberalism. With tax cuts (and particulary so for the rich), some moderate cuts in federal spendings in social programs and a huge increase in defense spendings, Bush will, in the same way as Reagan and his father, create ahuge budget deficit. This deficit will then in turn garantee that any liberal president after him will have to spend his term(s) repairing the damage with tax increases but litte of social programs. The voters will get tired of seeing their taxes go up without seeing things improving and will elect another conservative president that talks about taxcuts, the need for a strong defence and 'fisical responsibility.'

[The Emperor Fabulous]

I'm not entirely sure how the Bush admin isn't conservative. I mean, lets look:

Rolling back civil liberties in exchange for "security"
Maintaining a tax cut that largely benefits the upper class
Declaring war on a soverign nation with a preemptive attack
Looking for ways to define marraige as man and woman
Beginning a "Faith-based Initiative", which actually hurts non-affiliated programs
Israeli biases
Looking to open the Artic Refuge for drilling
Going back on the Kyoto treaty

How is he not conservative?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ming
Yeah... right... all conservatives are greedy, selfish, and evil people...

And only liberals are generous, loving, and kind people...

The act of being a conservative political is greedy. If you give to charity and volunteer that is great. If you vote conservatively (and why whould you?) then you being greedy (not that you are greedy).

[Snotty]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


That's pretty much your textbook definition of fascism. A kinder, gentler fascism, to be sure, but fascism nevertheless.

But its a fascism that will be gone when Bushs time runs out.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Snotty
But its a fascism that will be gone when Bushs time runs out.

Given the current crop of candidates that looks to be around 2008.

[Snotty]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Given the current crop of candidates that looks to be around 2008.

Its better than having to wait for some other country to rescue you from it.

[Japher]

The act of being a conservative political is greedy. If you give to charity and volunteer that is great. If you vote conservatively (and why whould you?) then you being greedy (not that you are greedy).

Tout, tout.., Robin Hood.

Voting liberal is selfish.

[Chemical Ollie]

I have always called myself conservative, but after seeing the politics of Bush II, I'm not so sure any longer.

[Japher]

Ollie, I'm a conservative (at least fiscally) and I am not happy with everything Bush has done. I think Bush is a left wing Republican and not a strong conservative, yet many conservatives will side with him because he does have a good focus on fiscal responsibility (IMO)...

Thus, don't use Bush as the mold of conservatisim, the broke his mold a long time ago

[Q Classic]

if by fiscal responsibility you mean saddling my generation with the costs of everything he's doing now...

[Az]

think Bush is a left wing Republican and not a strong conservative, yet many conservatives will side with him because he does have a good focus on fiscal responsibility (IMO)...

[Ramo]

And left wing Republican? Are you insane?

[Elok]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
i guess you guys aren't happy drunks, are you?

I am, but I'm only twenty so unless you can express-mail me some booze I'm afraid I won't be able to join you.