Has the Bush administration signaled the end of conservatism?

[monkspider]

I think that the Bush Administration has sufficently proved that conservatism just isn't a workable political philosophy. Have recent events sounded the death knell for conservatism?

[Kuciwalker]

bad troll, stupid post

EDIT: and I think that a century's worth of events have proved that communism is even less viable

[Shi Huangdi]

Re: Has the Bush administration signaled the end of conservatism?

Originally posted by monkspider
I think that the Bush Administration has sufficently proved that conservatism just isn't a workable political philosophy. Have recent events sounded the death knell for conservatism?

No.

[Jon Miller]

there are still a lot of conservatives about

and what I am pissed off at Bush about are not things that are conservative

I am pissed about the Patriot Act, and dishonesty with relation to Iraq

Republicans and Democrats behave the same way in office, by and large (Bush has not been very conservative)

Jon Miller

[TimeTraveler]

The Patriot Act in particular is something I'd like to see taken out, considering it takes away a number of rights that were supposed to be guaranteed to us since 1789. I for one would be a lot less worried if the government actually paid more attention to the Bill of Rights.

[MrFun]

Re: Has the Bush administration signaled the end of conservatism?

Originally posted by monkspider
I think that the Bush Administration has sufficently proved that conservatism just isn't a workable political philosophy. Have recent events sounded the death knell for conservatism?

I'm a leftie -- but I definitely think you're in lala land, or dream land or somewhere way out there, if you think this as remotely realistic.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Isn't monkspider the guy that thinks Socialism will take over the world in 20 years?

[Ecthy]

You have just won the Stupid award, monkspider. (2)

[uh Clem]

What exactly is 'conservative' about the Bush regime?

Its adherence to the principle of limited government?

Its avoidance of massive deficits?

Its respect for what the Constitution called 'a republican form of government?'

???

[DanielXY]

Ok, when the Bush admin is not conservative what is it?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by DanielXY
Ok, when the Bush admin is not conservative what is it?

They favor an authoritarian, militarized government that seeks to roll back civil liberties and that rules on behalf of corporations rather than citizens. They place might above right. They seek to stifle all dissent, telling Americans that they'd "better watch what they say." They've created false threats in order to consolidate their power and achieve their aims. They've cast aspersions on the patriotism of anyone who has dared to question them.

That's pretty much your textbook definition of fascism. A kinder, gentler fascism, to be sure, but fascism nevertheless.

[Lincoln]

I am a conservative and I question much of what this president does to further true conservatisim. I agree with lowering taxes but spending needs to be reduced along with the tax cuts. Everyone is too scared to do this. The idea that Bush squandered the "surplus" though is absurd. The "surplus" was a big bubble that began to deflate while Clinton was still in office. We are paying the price now for the speculation of the 90's. But people are dependant on the government now so they will rebel at almost any reduction in government spending. So, in that sense, I don't think that we will ever return to tax cuts along with reduced spending. So we have conseratism in name only.

As far as the Patriot Act goes, I think it is an insult to all Americans who still believe in the concept of individual rights.

[Ecthy]

Fascism IS something conservative.

[Dinner]

I think it's pretty clear that one of these is true:

1)Bush doesn't know what a conservative is (or else he'd be acting like one).

2) Bush is not really a conservative.

3) Bush wants to be a conservative but will say or do just about anything to get reelected including doing some very unconservative things.

My money's on 3.

[mindseye]

My money's on 3.

Really? I think it's pretty clearly 1).