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  • #16
    How so? The vast majority of our people fly direct from the States anyway (well, they make a stop-off in Ireland for Iraq). This isn't like it used to be.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #17
      I don't agree with the author's **** everyone who doesn't agree with us stance also his suggestion that we should close all of our bases in countries which don't support our foreign policy 100% of the time in niave.
      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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      • #18
        What do they make all day long then on Ramstein AFB and elsewhere? Oh, perhaps I should clarify - by troops I mean not just soldiers - just anything which is needed for an operation.
        Blah

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Oerdin
          I don't agree with the author's **** everyone who doesn't agree with us stance also his suggestion that we should close all of our bases in countries which don't support our foreign policy 100% of the time in niave.
          I agree... our Allies shouldn't change every time a new political party controls the presidency...
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DanS
            How so? The vast majority of our people fly direct from the States anyway (well, they make a stop-off in Ireland for Iraq). This isn't like it used to be.
            Search and rescue coverage doesn't come from US bases... for just about every sortie the US flies, the military wants search and rescue coverage on call in case of a downed aircraft. For instance, the US negotiated heavily to have bases in Uzbekistan during the Afghan campaign. In fact, air raids after 9-11 couldn't happen until they had such coverage. Even though stealth bombers have their bases in Missouri, or wherever, the search and rescue aircraft in flight during flight ops comes from countries local to the operations.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #21
              There are some really big bases in Germany and Italy (as well as other parts of Western Europe) which represent ALOT of capital being spent to build them up. They're very useful in transporting ligistics and many of our medical facilities in Germany are the closest first rate military hospitals to Iraq. I know in Kosovo soldiers and civilians who were injured almost always got air lifted to German bases because that's where we had our best military hospitals in Europe.
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              • #22
                also his suggestion that we should close all of our bases in countries which don't support our foreign policy 100% of the time in niave
                Come on now. You know he didn't suggest that.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DanS


                  Explain what you mean.
                  When you want somethign from someone and they're giving you a hard time, you can point to the bunker you've built in their backyard.
                  Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                  Do It Ourselves

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                  • #24
                    He sure did.
                    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                    • #25
                      There are some really big bases in Germany and Italy (as well as other parts of Western Europe) which represent ALOT of capital being spent to build them up. They're very useful in transporting ligistics and many of our medical facilities in Germany are the closest first rate military hospitals to Iraq. I know in Kosovo soldiers and civilians who were injured almost always got air lifted to German bases because that's where we had our best military hospitals in Europe.
                      As they are doing for Iraq. But why do we need to have our best military hospitals in Europe? They could just as easily be in the States or some other country.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        He sure did.
                        Where?
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          It took me just over 20 hours (not counting the stop Newfoundland) to fly from the San Francisco bay area to Germany via a C-141. Remember that the C-141 is one of the fastest military transport planes we have.

                          It's much better to have forward bases then to try to take all of the wounded and all of the supplies directly to the country in question especially since we don't know what the next country in question is going to be.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #28
                            We're continent sized so watch out! We'll squash you!
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • #29
                              When you want somethign from someone and they're giving you a hard time, you can point to the bunker you've built in their backyard.
                              The point was many of our permanent bases in the Gulf War were primarily used as a way of extracting something from the US, or trying to stop us from doing what we were going to do. Of course, they were just following the wishes of their people, but who needs the hassle?
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #30
                                It's much better to have forward bases then to try to take all of the wounded and all of the supplies directly to the country in question especially since we don't know what the next country in question is going to be.
                                I agree with this, but it doesn't require anywhere near the scope of a Rammstein. We can pick and choose the scope for each base.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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