Was Hemingway a racist?

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


It happens even today.

Explain.

[LoneWolf]

Originally posted by Feephi


There has never been any proof that Hem was gay. Some critics have supposed a latent homosexuality because of the flamboyantly macho characters in his stories, but never any concrete proof that he was gay...

I grant you that the evidence for his homosexuality is circumstantial. I'm not troubled, either way, he is one of the great writers in history.

Che specializes in ludicrous statements, but I would sure like to see him produce some concrete evidence that "hunting black people for sport" occurs today.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Dissident
hey if black people can use the n word and not be deemed racist, I think white people should be able to use the n word and not be deemed racist

Um . . . no.


It's alright for instance, for gays to use the word "******" among themselves in appropriate contexts, but for straights to use it, when they don't have a clue about what it's like to be gay in today's society . . .

well, they're better off not using that word.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's alright for instance, for gays to use the word "******" among themselves in appropriate contexts, but for straights to use it, when they don't have a clue about what it's like to be gay in today's society . . .

Aren't homosexuals promoting usage of the word by using it themselves and trying to take the negative connotations out of it?

If they wanted straights to not use the word, they should probably stop using it themselves to prevent any interpretation that it could be 'ok'.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

It's alright for instance, for gays to use the word "******" among themselves in appropriate contexts, but for straights to use it, when they don't have a clue about what it's like to be gay in today's society . . .

Aren't homosexuals promoting usage of the word by using it themselves and trying to take the negative connotations out of it?

If they wanted straights to not use the word, they should probably stop using it themselves to prevent any interpretation that it could be 'ok'.

You got one thread deleted . . .

trying for a second one?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I actually attempted to get that thread deleted... I like this one .

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I actually attempted to get that thread deleted... I like this one .

well, ok then

[Asher]

Imran simply is an *******.

The mods ought to have banned you and deleted that segment of posts from the thread.

Just because you wanted the thread to be deleted because you got 0wned doesn't make it okay.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Thank you .

Mr. Fun, I'm really interested in your answer to my observation that using these words allow it to be seen as 'ok' by some.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Asher
Imran simply is an *******.

aaawww . . .


Oh, and Imran, about your question here . . .


heteroes are not showing us any respect by thinking they can use the word just because gays use it, without understanding in the first place, what it's like to be gay in society.

[Dinner]

Do as I say not as I do.

[Imran Siddiqui]

heteroes are not showing us any respect by thinking they can use the word just because gays use it, without understanding in the first place, what it's like to be gay in society.

But doesn't some of it rest on those gays using '******' or blacks using '******' as a term of endearment... especially blacks using '******', because that word seems to be EVERYWHERE in music, etc.

[Asher]

White people can say cracker, black people can say ******, gay people can say ******.

It's a way of coping, for minorities. Somehow it means a lot to people when you turn an insult people use against you and use it freely with eachother. I don't suppose you'd understand, seeing as you go out of your way to mimick the people around you.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

But doesn't some of it rest on those gays using '******' or blacks using '******' as a term of endearment... especially blacks using '******', because that word seems to be EVERYWHERE in music, etc.

There's a difference between gays using the word "******" in appropriate context, and overusing it to the point of appearing to act stupid.


Also, when gays use the word "*** hag" it's not the responsibility for gays on how heteroes use/misuse that word -- that is out of our control.

Should we censor ourselves because we cannot control how others will use a certain word?

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's a way of coping, for minorities. Somehow it means a lot to people when you turn an insult people use against you and use it freely with eachother.

That is silly. Taking a 'slur' and 'turning into our own thing' is utterly ridiculous IMO. It just makes the term seem ok. I've never called a fellow Pakistani 'sand******' or 'dothead' so we can turn it around. We don't want to have it used at all, so us using it would defeat the purpose. It'd keep the slur around.