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No trolling , please ! Yes , Europe has faced terrorism for a long time . That may be a reasom why many European nations do not support the war on terror , but would rather go for covert assassinations of terrorist leaders .
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Europe has never had an attack on the scale of 9/11 though
USA also conducts assassinations
Predator drones tracking down fools and blowing them
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I'd give anything to be at the controls
Or just give me a 9 so I can pull the triggerWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Can America finish terrorism alone?
No. Quite simply, America can't finish terrorism period.Comment
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I agree that a war on terrorism is unwinnable - like a "war on crime" - something we will always have with us. A war on the Gambino crime family was winnable, however as you imply.Originally posted by GePap
If we are still fighting this in 100 years, then something went horrbily wrong somewhere.
The point is a "war on terrorism" is unwinnable (like a "war on war"). Now, a "war on Al qaeda", that we can win.
I think it was not mistaken to make it more generally a "war on all the linked Cosa Nostra rooted crime organizations in New YorK" rather than to focus on one organization.
Similarly what we have now is a war on Salafist-jihadist terrorism - a complex interlinked set of organizations and actors, not just the Al Qaeeda itself. For a variety of reasons, Bush could not be explicit about that."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.†Martin BuberComment
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I think theres some confusion here - what european nations do you think dont support the war on terrorism?Originally posted by aneeshm
No trolling , please ! Yes , Europe has faced terrorism for a long time . That may be a reasom why many European nations do not support the war on terror , but would rather go for covert assassinations of terrorist leaders ."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.†Martin BuberComment
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something went horribly wrong somewhere, even if al qaeeda disappears tomorrow.Originally posted by GePap
If we are still fighting this in 100 years, then something went horrbily wrong somewhere.
See bernard lewis "what went wrong""A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.†Martin BuberComment
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Yesterday I saw a documentation about the war on terror - the main idea was that Al Qaeda isn´t just a terror org anymore, it is more a kind of ideology now that would work even without Bin Laden, since there are enough fundamentalist groups out there.
This cannot be won (if it can) purely militarily. Military action can be an option against those who are backed by regimes like the taleban, and are able to carry our large scale attacks, but it doesn´t help against a myriad of small terror cells.BlahComment
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actually it was an ideology before Bin laden. AQ is itself rooted in the world of Pakistani jihadism, and the jihadi - deobandie madrassahs of Northwest pakistan. Which were associated with various pakistani groups that engaged in terrorist violence. Similarly Salafist violence was involved in the Algerian civil war, and a similar civil war in Egypt, which started with the Murder of Sadat. Bin ladens innovation was to take the war directly to the "infidels", instead of focusing on their "puppets". The ideological roots go far back as well, and include Sayed Qutb and the Egyptian Islamic brotherhoods, and other extremist interpreters of Wahabism.Originally posted by BeBro
Yesterday I saw a documentation about the war on terror - the main idea was that Al Qaeda isn´t just a terror org anymore, it is more a kind of ideology now that would work even without Bin Laden, since there are enough fundamentalist groups out there.
This cannot be won (if it can) purely militarily. Military action can be an option against those who are backed by regimes like the taleban, and are able to carry our large scale attacks, but it doesn´t help against a myriad of small terror cells."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.†Martin BuberComment
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Well, they didn´t mean fundamentalism or islamistic terror didn´t exist before OBL, the film makers just had the thesis that "Al Quaeda" itself became a kind of popular symbol or icon within the Arab world. The idea was that now it doesn´t need some big masterminds like OBL anymore to form new terror cells, the process has its own dynamics so that many muslims with fundamentalist tendencies now will form a lot of small terror orgs not neccessarily connected to eachother, and without a common "program" - what they have in common is just the hate against all westerners and the will to kill them.BlahComment
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We are mainly worried about organizations that can pull off complicated terrorist actions away from home base. This kind of capable organization isn't very common. The ideology has been around for quite a while, but it's only been in the last 10 years or so that a group has been able to become sufficiently organized to cause us much concern.Yesterday I saw a documentation about the war on terror - the main idea was that Al Qaeda isn´t just a terror org anymore, it is more a kind of ideology now that would work even without Bin Laden, since there are enough fundamentalist groups out there.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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But currently in Iraq small actions that take place everyday create enough problems, although a lot may be come from Saddam loyalists, not neccessarily fundamentalists. However, they said also in that movie that Iraq now is a kind of paradise for people who simply want to attack the evil Americans (kind of terror-tourism)...BlahComment
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The longer the US and the coalition stay in control of Iraq and Afghanistan , the more organised and powerful the resistance will become . For the first time , the terrorists have found sometning to shoot at on the ground , not the air .Comment
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The underlying message is that the terrorists are free to attack our troops. The jihadists got creamed in the war and over time we will get the better of the exchange in this second wave. Our troops are strong and can deal with these guys. This is the flypaper theory.However, they said also in that movie that Iraq now is a kind of paradise for people who simply want to attack the evil Americans (kind of terror-tourism)...
Sabotage and attacks against non-collaborating civilians is an interesting subject, though.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Re: Can America finish terrorism alone ?
Out of curiosity has the Indian government taken action against Hindu terror groups such as the Vishva Hindu Parishad?Originally posted by aneeshm
Living in India , terrorism is nothing new . You felt it two years ago . I knew it from birth . On the 25th of August , two blasts killed more than a hundred people in the city of Mumbai . On the 7th of Sept. , a car bomb killed seven people in Srinagar . Most people here must not even have heard of this .
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Again , I ask , how many here feel America can do this alone ?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
USA never said it was going to do it either alone or by military means only.
We will win this if it takes the next 100 years.
paiktis is a piece of sh1t by the way. Go shave your back you fuc king p ussy ass b1tch.
ooooh... is that ghetto talk?
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