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Food , we have no problems except in distribution (we , in fact , have the largest stored stocks in the world of rice and wheat) . Train wrecks , you got me . . .
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Well sure, to an extent. Same with Israel/Palestine. Sharon and Arafat don't really want peace.Any compromise on Kashmir would reduce the prominence of the military establishment , as it's raison d' etre is the Kashmir dispute and their projection of India as against Pakistan . It's not the people , but the rulers who want this to continue.
So, back to the "war on terror." The U.S. needs international cooperation to really reduce the international terrorist threat. Other governments will only help the U.S. government if they feel it is in their best interests (Pakistan, w/regard to Afganistan, for instance). Available tactics include: 1) bullying; 2) bribing; 3) convincing them it's in their best interests.
1 & 2 are quite straightforward, and as unsavory as they may be, can be effective. 3, on the other hand, is much more difficult, and may in fact include some of 2 (some reciprocity... we scratch your back if you'll scratch ours). What we have right now appears to be an administration that doesn't really care to try #3. They just don't see the world that way. To them, it's bully or bribe (or both). So that's how things will go for another year or 5.
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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The more you bully and coerce , the more terrorists will be spawned . Why can't bush and his gang of international thugs realise this ? #3 is the only long-term approach that can work , and eventually get rid of the reason terrorists become terrorists (oppression by the west , real or percieved) .Comment
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Amen.
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No, we don't think we can finish terrorists alone. However, our military actions, among other things that we and others have done, have been an effective way to disrupt large-scale terrorism directed against us.Such things keep happening , and no-one pays any attention . Do the American people seriously think they can finish terrorists just by army operations wherever and whenever they so choose ? We learnt long ago that you cannot do it that way . We are still trying , though , and without much success .
I would argue that most of the terrorism that India and the US (and Israel) face is not large scale. Even the embassy bombings during the 90s and Bali were perhaps not large scale (they did require extensive planning and knowledge, however). 9/11 was large scale in every sense of the term. We lost 3,000 people as well as hundreds of billions of dollars. It required years of planning and a substantial terrorist organization to back it up.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I think a first step towards ending terrorism would be to have a proper definition, that everyone accepts, as to what terrorism actually is.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.Comment
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You think that India has not faced large-scale terrorism ? This is what I mean about the world media not having any interest in India , even if it has repercussions elsewhere . In a span of fifty years , we have lost over a million , I repeat a million people . This , I think , is significant in itself . Aand the terrorists have stepped up operations very considerably , seeing that it did work against america , and provoked a rather , in our opinion , premature and drastic response .Comment
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How do you come by that 1 million figure?
One thing to note is that some terrorism does not require long-term planning with a large organization to back it up. Some ethnic massacres or apparently even some genocides would fit in here.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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True but to be honest there are 30 other countries contributing forces right now with hopes of others arriving in the coming months. Still, we'd do better if countries such as India, Turkey, China, Russia, Germany, and France joined in.Originally posted by Harry Seldon
No. We shouldn't have even tried. Damn Dubbya! Without the UN or at least a coalition this venture is doomed to failure.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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The number of people killed in anti-terrorism operations and killed just for being Hindus in Kashmir is where I get the figures . Though it sounds callous make that +- a few thousand .Comment
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Well, there have been pogroms going both ways. But anyway, if this were the type of terrorism that the US was worried about primarily, then military action would be pretty ineffective unless you were quite brutal in the execution.The number of people killed in anti-terrorism operations and killed just for being Hindus in Kashmir is where I get the figures
However, al Qaeda lost some of its best men on the Shomali Plains to precision bombs at $17,000 apiece. It also demonstrated that the US was very serious in defending its interests. This must have had a particularly focused impact on Pakistan. We have been able to reel in much of al Qaeda with Pakistan's help.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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A "war" on terrorism is like a "war" on crime or a "war" on drugs; it's a never ending battle which requires constant vigilance. The best we can do is knock off those governments which directly support terrorist enterprises and then pressure countries which have large groups of potential terrorists (I.E. Muslim countries) to enact a more liberal and less fundamentalist educational system. Sadly even in the best of circumstances it will still take generations before we can deindoctrinate the populations.
I wish it was just a political party we were up against because then it would be just like the deNazification campaign after WW2 where you just had to arrest high ranking party members who’s names were all on the party membership rolls. A religious ideology (I.E. Wahabism) with a bent for xenophobia and violence is much more difficult to combat.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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You don't keep up with current events do you? The US paid nearly all of what it owed two years ago.Originally posted by MrFun
Maybe the United Nations will be more willing to help once the United States starts paying back what it owes . . .Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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People are scared when the anniversary of 9/11 comes around , no ? That is terrorism . Making an entire society or country paranoid and scared , insecure . This is the same thing we face in Kashmir , though much , much more intense . We also face the problem in your form , in large cities .Comment
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Well USA is said deserved it.
What have you done?Comment
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