Can America finish terrorism alone ?

[Bereta_Eder]

Facts stay:

US only wants:

_To push its interests abraod. It doesn matter how many are killed by doing it. Unless there is a too big backlash against her in which time, it will stop.

_Protect its own people. This doesnt mean protect Indians or anyone else. If with her actions it does, so much the better, if by its actions it makes more Indians be killed, sorry.


clear goat mama teddy? it's the supreme irony you calling me a piece of ****. check it out on the dictionary.


now in what regards Pakistan, I see that Indians are begining to understand very clearly.

The domino is clear:

US wanted to satiate its bloodlust and confirm that still has the power to do so (as a sidenot these are clear signals of "imperial" decay)

Pakistan found itslef on a tight spot. So did the US.

US collaborated with the terrorism backing dictator in order to be in a easier position to drop some bombs.


collaborate with dictators and terrorists is not a first for her.


Now Pakistan said: damn if i dont colaborate those ruthless maniacs (like he's an angel) could start dropping bombs on me too

So he did.


But by doing so he wanted something in return.

main interest pressuring India.

US has no intention of screwing you up (it doesnt have anything to gain for the moment) but as long as it needs pakistan it will do so by giving it geopolitical clout.


this is the way it works.



dont try to see it "rationally" or based on democracy or human rights.
US doesnt operate like that.

few countries do, but the US prefers to have no social state if it means more bombs. so more damage. and more profits to the big corps.

it operates based on interests.

think of it like a beast: if it can it will do, if it hurts it will not.

[aneeshm]

The VHP is not a terrorist group , even though some of it's stances on issues make them seem like such . They are a political party (some of whose menbers may have been involved in inciting riots , though nothing can be confirmed) .

I don't support them (or any party biased by religion) .

[Dinner]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
actually it was an ideology before Bin laden. AQ is itself rooted in the world of Pakistani jihadism, and the jihadi - deobandie madrassahs of Northwest pakistan. Which were associated with various pakistani groups that engaged in terrorist violence. Similarly Salafist violence was involved in the Algerian civil war, and a similar civil war in Egypt, which started with the Murder of Sadat. Bin ladens innovation was to take the war directly to the "infidels", instead of focusing on their "puppets". The ideological roots go far back as well, and include Sayed Qutb and the Egyptian Islamic brotherhoods, and other extremist interpreters of Wahabism.

Most of the madrasahs in Pakistan, Afghistan, and Indonesia were founded and funded by Saudi money. The Saudis have been trying to export their proto-facist Wahabism for decades.

[aneeshm]

And , sad to say , they seem to have succeeded .

[aneeshm]

That , in reply to paiktis , is why so few of the third world and Middle Eastern nations are supporting the US actions . And that is why America is unlikely to find many allies in it's future raids/wars .

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Facts stay:

Shut up, poodle boy.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by aneeshm
That , in reply to paiktis , is why so few of the third world and Middle Eastern nations are supporting the US actions . And that is why America is unlikely to find many allies in it's future raids/wars .

There is antiamericanism all over the globe but it is located with white hot fury in middle east and parts of africa. teh reasons are much much older. it has to do with israel and its continuous support to it despite the thousand of palestinian civilian deaths.

US tries to have good relations with the governments of these countries. if they are dictatorships, it's better because if they are democracies they would hear more the opinions of the people who are very antiamerican.


europe just thinks in terms of what it can get - thats the first "principle"

and it also doesnt agree with the US on the way to handle things. that's second.

[chequita guevara]

USA! USA! USA!

[MrFun]

Actually, the puppet dictatorships that the United States set up was part of the anti-communist Cold War era policy.

[Arrian]

Who are you, and what have you done with Che?

CHE! CAN YOU HEAR ME?!? SHOULD I CALL 9-1-1?

-Arrian

[Bereta_Eder]

MrFun, cold war was sometimes the reason, some times an excellent excuse to put up a pupet regime that would sell her things.

it still does it and there's no cold war.


but maybe i should leave che do the talking because it doesnt seem nice for me critisizing another country.

[MrFun]

I'm surprised Che is acting like a hyper-patriot.

Usually he's more intelligent than that.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by aneeshm
That , in reply to paiktis , is why so few of the third world and Middle Eastern nations are supporting the US actions . And that is why America is unlikely to find many allies in it's future raids/wars .

Other than the invasion of iraq, what US raids wars are there that 3rd world and Mid eastern nations are not supporting?

[aneeshm]

We all have to look to our own best interests . What gets me is the USA's persistent refusal to see their own . To finish one dictator , you support five . A few decades later , you have five more to deal with . AND five times the resistance and terrorism . Isn't this obvious ?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by MrFun
I'm surprised Che is acting like a hyper-patriot.

Usually he's more intelligent than that.

I think he was being sarcastic.