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Originally posted by Caligastia
That's communism.
That's communism.
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I might agree more but I don't think u'd get many communists to. -
Black and White
If I see a day laborer sweating in the fields and decide to give him some of my water, is that stealing?
If I make public good works in the hope of inspiring others to do likewise, is that stealing?
If I pay the premiums on an insurance policy, but never need to file a claim, is that stealing?
If I give money to a beggar so he'll leave me alone, is that stealing?
If I pay taxes that partially go towards social programs, is that stealing?
If I pay protection money to people so they will not rob, maim, or kill me, is that stealing?
Real problems and real solutions are not black and white.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Re: Black and White
they may or may not be black and white, but atleast we now know they aren't all stealing!Originally posted by pchang
If I see a day laborer sweating in the fields and decide to give him some of my water, is that stealing?
If I make public good works in the hope of inspiring others to do likewise, is that stealing?
If I pay the premiums on an insurance policy, but never need to file a claim, is that stealing?
If I give money to a beggar so he'll leave me alone, is that stealing?
If I pay taxes that partially go towards social programs, is that stealing?
If I pay protection money to people so they will not rob, maim, or kill me, is that stealing?
Real problems and real solutions are not black and white.Comment
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Minimum wage is a necessity to control inflation and other macro economic effects...
It should, however, be above the poverty level if someone should be required to work 40 hours a week at that wage... Yet, requiring a livable wage, while a good idea, will cause problems. I'd sooner have employeers be required to compensate medicare or some other kind of medical benefit for all full time employees...Comment
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Economist
Globally speaking, we are in the midst of a technological upheaval. However, in the localized economy of the US, it would seem the technological upheaval is ending.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Some bussiness when they start out can pay little to their workers. I find that biger companies often pay more. Sometimes you have to start off at the bottom and work your way up to a higher wage. It happens with everyone. Even the CEOs of big corperations that make millions just did not land that job when they first came out of School.Originally posted by MrFun
Chegitz, that would not be a problem if the government abolished minimum wage, and replaced it with an enforced living wage, would it?
Ok -- that's fair enough. So if these businesses are not making enough in profit, how long can these businesses go on operating anyway?Comment
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Also the reason why bussiness pay people minimum wage is because there are people willing to work for that wage. In the US illigeals even willing to work less then the minimum wage because that money goes a lot longer in Mexico then the US. If no one wanted a minimum wage job then bussiness in response would pay more. You also have to think about if bussiness raised wages what about prices for good they make? Would not they go up too?Comment
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Junior
With the exception of those companies where the highly groomed offspring take over for the retiring CEO.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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If they're not taking up these opportunities, then yes, laziness, or apathy, or some such factor must play into things.Originally posted by MrFun
So the reason that these impoverished minimum wage workers are not taking up these opportunities to utilize the resources you mentioned is simply because of laziness?
I think that is over-simplification, don't you?
I assume that most minimum wage workers who are motivated to move above that level are looking for something better, and taking steps to improve their (lack of) marketable job skills.
The fact that someone is working a minimum wage job now doesn't necessarily mean they'll be in the same job at the same wages next year. I didn't stick around minimum wage for very long.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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Re: Black and White
You have to remember that in the Libertarian world (what I call the Liberterrarium) things are black and white. And the light is usually off, too.Originally posted by pchang
If I see a day laborer sweating in the fields and decide to give him some of my water, is that stealing?
If I make public good works in the hope of inspiring others to do likewise, is that stealing?
If I pay the premiums on an insurance policy, but never need to file a claim, is that stealing?
If I give money to a beggar so he'll leave me alone, is that stealing?
If I pay taxes that partially go towards social programs, is that stealing?
If I pay protection money to people so they will not rob, maim, or kill me, is that stealing?
Real problems and real solutions are not black and white.
When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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Since the introduction of the minimum wage in the UK, there has been a quite noticeable increasing trend in the number of part-time jobs offered and taken.Minimum wage is a necessity to control inflation and other macro economic effects...
It should, however, be above the poverty level if someone should be required to work 40 hours a week at that wage...www.my-piano.blogspotComment
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Ignorance
Another big factor in the perpetuation of poverty is ignorance. Not everyone knows about all the programs/opportunities available to help people pull themselves out of poverty.
We don't do a good job of penetrating the consciousness of many poor people.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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It's not "our" job to feed them.We don't do a good job of penetrating the consciousness of many poor people.www.my-piano.blogspotComment
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good point pchang... The US really needs to pick up on public education more... I think we should all learn a lesson from France F'in up this SUmmerComment
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Feeding
Do you believe in public service announcements or public education?“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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