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  • #61
    Originally posted by Spiffor

    You should try socialist realism
    What's that?
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Ted Striker
      What's that?
      That was the 'art' officially promoted by the USSR and other socialist countries. Definitely a must if you wanna see bland and boring forms of art
      "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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      • #63
        Actually the ones I looked up weren't too bad!

        Sortof like Norman Rockwell meets the Nazis.
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #64
          The Sun of Communism

          For all you wannabe Commies out there...
          Attached Files
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #65
            It's your lucky day!

            Instead of being purged as enemies of the state you are being sent out to the field to harvest crops by hand!
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            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #66
              The nice thing about Jesus is that he was more concerned with what people do than he was with what doctrine they held. The repeated theme of his teachings is that the doer of the word is blessed. Hearing the teachings of Jesus and not doing them is condemned in scripture. I do not believe that anyone who actually does love their neighbor as Jesus taught will ever see hell. On the other hand I think that many who call themselves Christian will never see heaven.

              Most of the threatening of Jesus was directed toward hypocrites and phony religious people who used the name of God to further a particular agenda not approved by him. "He that does the truth comes to the light". The Indians and slaves persecuted by Christians in the name of manifest destiny (or any other high-sounding excuse for greed) will see the kingdom of God before their persecutors will. Wearing the name is not enough. To be a follower of Jesus it is necessary to actually do what he said. Yes, salvation is a free gift of grace but the trampling of that grace under foot by those who should be teaching it by example is a grievous sin.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Lincoln
                The nice thing about Jesus is that he was more concerned with what people do than he was with what doctrine they held. The repeated theme of his teachings is that the doer of the word is blessed. Hearing the teachings of Jesus and not doing them is condemned in scripture. I do not believe that anyone who actually does love their neighbor as Jesus taught will ever see hell. On the other hand I think that many who call themselves Christian will never see heaven.

                Most of the threatening of Jesus was directed toward hypocrites and phony religious people who used the name of God to further a particular agenda not approved by him. "He that does the truth comes to the light". The Indians and slaves persecuted by Christians in the name of manifest destiny (or any other high-sounding excuse for greed) will see the kingdom of God before their persecutors will. Wearing the name is not enough. To be a follower of Jesus it is necessary to actually do what he said. Yes, salvation is a free gift of grace but the trampling of that grace under foot by those who should be teaching it by example is a grievous sin.
                Well spoken. Are you a preacher? If not maybe you should be
                'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Spiffor

                  I thought that was gePap ?
                  Yes it is!

                  UR: you are now on trial for sedition against the rightfull rulers of the fair vity of Dis!
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
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                  • #69
                    I say we hold an election !

                    Vote GePap for mayor !
                    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker
                      [Christian rock music] falls under what I'm talking about.

                      These artists are all "restrained," and it's all a part of the guilt complex that American churches especially bore into everybody from day 1.

                      Most Churches preach so much guilt and following the rules that everyone is afraid to let loose in fear of being judged or being a sinner. So everything is so watered down and steralized.
                      You need to get out a bit more. You obviously know very little about CCM (contemporary Christian music). Not a personal attack, Ted, just an observation.
                      You know when people are full of spirit you can feel it. But all I see from these artists in an act on stage.
                      No, most people don't know. The "spirit" that many people seek (for example, as another mentioned, black gospel worship style) is just as much a performance and equally capable of being void of true inspiration. The eye (and taste) of the beholder is perhaps a greater influence here than actual discernment of the artists and art in question.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Ted Striker
                        The Sun of Communism
                        For all you wannabe Commies out there...
                        That just shows you that capitalism is the way to go. Commies have so little sense they stare directly at the sun even after their mothers tell them not to...
                        Most Contemporary Christian music sucks not because of the influence of the lifestyle, but because there are relatively few people who are both talented in music and willing to devote their entire careers to singing about God. There are only a few good Christian rock artists but bear in mind that you're looking at a small sample size. Even in mainstream rock, for every new Led Zeppelin or Jimi Hendrix that comes into the light there are about a thousand punk garage bands with names like Backdoor Hopscotch Illusion whose idea of a good song is a few distorted guitar riffs, a blur of profanity intermingled with complaints about the system keeping us down, and another few ugly chords to finish 'er off. The good-to-dud ratio is the same, but there are a lot more duds so naturally a lot more good musicians who you've actually heard about.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand
                          I'm not talking about "Bringing In The Sheaves".
                          Christian Rock, and other genres are, becoming big.
                          Seriously.
                          If you're just talking Hymns, I still think some are very good.
                          'Christian' rock music= as appealing a prospect as vomit flavoured toothpaste, or a battery acid enema.

                          Music for people who find Reader's Digest challenging and controversial.
                          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                          • #73
                            Sorry Player, I agree with Straybow. There's some good stuff out there!
                            www.my-piano.blogspot

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by elijah
                              Heaven and hell = Carrot and stick. Why? Control of people.
                              Oh, now I underdstand. Those cunny Jesus and Apostles and Christians of first centuries....
                              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                              Middle East!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Spiffor
                                I thought that was gePap ?
                                We all take turns to be the Mayor
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