i think another major delusion is that conservatives and right-wingers are evil, selfish, greedy, racist, etc. i mean its ridiculous how far liberals will go to vilify people with such unfounded adjectives
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
The delusional top ten
Collapse
X
-
Elijah:
Your last post is absolutely true (in my illusions) save for one thing.
[note: since I'll be talking about reality and truth, a few little definitions won't hurt: in my vocabulary, "reality" is the objective state of affairs that surrounds us; "truth" is what we percieve and how we evaluate reality. I prefer to do these definitions first, because otherwise, we'd have some confusions]
I think truth is always based on reality and is never completely baseless. While we cannot have access to pure reality, some truthes are more "real" than other because they're more connected to reality.
For example, AFAIK, the Flat Earth Society doesn't take into account the fact that the globe has been circumnavigated or that you see stars very differently depending from where you stand on the planet."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis
Comment
-
I agree. These fools should go extinct.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Albert Speer
i think another major delusion is that conservatives and right-wingers are evil, selfish, greedy, racist, etc. i mean its ridiculous how far liberals will go to vilify people with such unfounded adjectives"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis
Comment
-
There's only one truly big delusion and that's the absurd claim that I could be wrong about anything. Pah!Världsstad - Dom lokala genrenas vän
Mick102, 102,3 Umeå, Måndagar 20-21
Comment
-
Spiffor: I concur entirely, except that "reality" to a point can always be made to be subjective.
Its the classic Russell thing really. The desk that I'm typing at is made out of wood, its me that perceives it as a table. The wood is made of organic molecules, then atoms, then subatmomic particles, then energy, then fluctuations in 4 dimensional space time. I can literally (although not, for obvious reasons) go on forever. There is no objective state of affairs independent to human perception so a "steady state reality" is non-existent. As such, all we are left with is truth as you put it, which defines our reality.
"I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
"You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:
Comment
-
This is bad
But it gets worse
Her insightful and playful cartoon collections include "Nina's Adventures" and "Depression is Fun"."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
"You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:
Comment
-
Originally posted by elijah
Spiffor: I concur entirely, except that "reality" to a point can always be made to be subjective.
Its the classic Russell thing really. The desk that I'm typing at is made out of wood, its me that perceives it as a table. The wood is made of organic molecules, then atoms, then subatmomic particles, then energy, then fluctuations in 4 dimensional space time. I can literally (although not, for obvious reasons) go on forever. There is no objective state of affairs independent to human perception so a "steady state reality" is non-existent. As such, all we are left with is truth as you put it, which defines our reality.
And as we all differ somehow in the way in which Informations are processed in the Brain and have Differences in our Sensory Cells (for Example the Numbers of Receptors in our Eye for Blue, Green and Red) the world is seen diferently by every Person.
Our Differences in Education also mean, that every Person interprets certain events in a different way.
A good Example of Differences in Education is the Difference beteen medieval and modern people:
Medieval People knew, that Sun (which evolves around earth) sank below the Horizon, because Earth is flat; they also knew that we only perceive the Outside World, because our Eyes emit some kind of Beam (he same Beams which can hurt you if the Person wehich stares at you has an evil Gaze) and that Maggots in rotng Flsh came out of nithing by he Power of God.
We know, that Sun just vanishes because Earth revolvs around axis and that our Eyes don´t emit Beams, but that Beams of the Sun are reflected and enter the eyes and we know that Flies just lay their Eggs into the rotting Flesh and that it is these eggs which bring up maggots.
To a lesser extent much interindividual Differences in Education are still to be found throughout the world and lead them to interpret things differently (for example Differences between a poor Muslim Farmer and a western Scientist).
Maybe Science in some hundred years (as long as the humans survive this long) will find our way of thinking delusionalTamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"
Comment
-
And as we all differ somehow in the way in which Informations are processed in the Brain and have Differences in our Sensory Cells (for Example the Numbers of Receptors in our Eye for Blue, Green and Red) the world is seen diferently by every Person."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Comment
Comment