The delusional top ten

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Oh, the creationists have to be a top form of delutional denial. As a geologist I can't help but snicker whenever I hear those funimentalist Christian radio stations talking about "geologic proof of the great flood" or "geologic proof the world is only 3,000 years old".

These idiots often don't know the first thing about palentology yet they think they know enough to disprove sound science based upon what they've read in a three chapter fundie book.

As a geologist you're part of the conspiracy. Nothing you say can be trusted.

[Spiffor]

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[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Lorizael
As a geologist you're part of the conspiracy. Nothing you say can be trusted.

The sad thing is that this is exactly what the Creationists say...

[Zevico]

Oerdin, how do you know this?
Proteus: the Israeli Settler organisations want to live in peace-they're just stupid-exceedingly stupid. You don't see many settlers killing palestinians, do you?
Albert: Consider the fact that the PA itself is exceedingly corrupt, and I don't think anyone should pity it. Also consider that it is filled with terrorists, I don't think anyone should pity it even moreso. Israel isn't an angel, but it does have a strange addiction to wanting peace A LOT (of course there are exceptions here and there...).
I point to Israeli culture as proof-its filled with songs wishing for peace and etc, and none for killing or bloodshed, for example.

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Zevico
Oerdin, how do you know this?
Proteus: the Israeli Settler organisations want to live in peace-they're just stupid-exceedingly stupid. You don't see many settlers killing palestinians, do you?

After some reports about Human Rights Violations there also seem to be Settlers who destroy palestinian Property and kill Palestinians.
But yes, Violence of Settlers hapens of course on a much smaller Scale, than terrorist Atacks by Hamas et al. that is right.

Most Settlers (or to be more specific their Organisations) don´t want to kill the Palestinians, here I agree.
But they still want to have a single jewish State, which encompasses Israel and all of the Westbank.

No other Reason is there for their ongoing attempts to build more and more Setlements on palestinian Property.
Just as Leaders in Hamas and other palestinian Organisations dream of a large Palestinian State (which includes Israel) the Settlers dream of a large jewish State (including Westbak and probably Gaza).

Although I don´t know if the Leaders of the Settler Organizations wish to have an Empty Westbank (with the palestinian Population deported to other Arab Countries), just as many Leaders of Hamas and Co probably dream of an arab Great Palestina without Jews, or if they could also live with an Great Israel in which they have to share the Lands with the Palestinians.

[Al B. Sure!]

Zevico:

Let me put it this way... Israel wins if they get peace, palestine doesn't... Israel's only goal is to have a country for jews in the levant... which they acheived but now just got to hold onto it... the arab goal is to not have israel there... on any peace agreement, the arabs will have to compromise but are the israelis really compromising? no. peace obtains their entire goal...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Zevico
Oerdin, how do you know this?

The average student spends 4-5 years learning the basics of this science. I can't exactly explain all of the methods in a single thread.

[Boris Godunov]

I think he was referring to your perspective on the Israel-Palestine conflict, Oerdin.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
The KKK is outdated and in need of purging.
Initially, it was a "good" idea.
Newly freed Blacks, being prodded by Yankee Carpetbaggers to cause trouble.

Pretty much how "Gone With The Wind" depicts it.
The group of men, that rode to avenge the attack on Scarlett O'Hara? KKK.

Yes -- the belief that the Ku Klux Klan was initally a good idea is definitely a major delusion.

[Proteus_MST]

The Belief that german Concentrationscamps (Konzentrationslager) were just an Invention of the Allied Propaganda is another major Delusion
(which seems to be held by many Neonazis and Fascists)

[Dinner]

Many neo-Nazi's and KKK members in the Us claim the halocaust never happened. With so much video, evidience, and eye witness accounts I think this qualifies as delusional.

[Whaleboy]

The biggest dillusion I can think of (at least in human minds), is the fallacy of human greatness - that is egocentrism or geocentrism. You could also extend that to socio-centrism or conservatism, but its too late in the day for me to be thinking...

EDIT: For those that haven't noticed, I like my isms!

[Whaleboy]

The problem here is that people make their own dillusions. "Reality", and what we would perceive to be the antithesis to a dillusion, is itself an illusion of perception in the mind. We differenciate between illusion and dillusion because some others "illusions" may disagree with ours. Thats putting it simplistically, hope it makes sense.

[Al B. Sure!]

how the hell is conservatism in any way (specific group)-centric? the two concepts have absolutely nothing to do with each other...

[Whaleboy]

Albert: Dont get me into this now, I'm not in the mood for a flame war. I'm writing another article on it I can pm you if you want, in the meantime theres something on my website on liberalism that should give you the jist of it.

I'm depressed today, no-one debate with me!